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·Here is another picture of it that I took
New Seamaster Purchase - Opinion Needed!
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OmeGez
·It’s a difficult one - if you wanted a ‘new old’ watch then I wouldn’t be happy.
If you were after a ‘patina/aged style’ watch then it’s nice and even.
If this was a Rolex it would have a premium for a faulted dial... :lol:
If you were after a ‘patina/aged style’ watch then it’s nice and even.
If this was a Rolex it would have a premium for a faulted dial... :lol:
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorI would send it back if he offers a refund, in the first shot there is a small dot under the A of Omega in your photo. Is it noticeable to you. Doesn’t seem in your picture just posted.
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gbesq
·I think that the disparity between the appearance of the dial in the photos as advertised and the actual condition of the dial is unacceptable. Whether you want to live with the watch is up to you, but at a minimum I think that you would be entirely justified in requesting a partial refund based upon photos which are clearly misleading. Even the oversize images available on the original listing do not show the true condition of the dial.
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JwRosenthal
·It’s a good looking watch from arms length, But for a $1.5k gold cap, I would expect perfection
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rkman11
·I would return it. The pictures did not represent the true condition of the watch. I won’t pass judgement on whether that was intentional or not, but the bottom line is the same. It’s also way overpriced in my opinion for gold capped in that condition.
You deserve a special piece for your anniversary. I’m not 100% sure but you might wanna PM @jB1128 and see if he might have something MUCH better for sale...
You deserve a special piece for your anniversary. I’m not 100% sure but you might wanna PM @jB1128 and see if he might have something MUCH better for sale...
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Dealers have to eat of course but many of the things on his website would usually change hands on a forum or ebay at around half of the asking price or less, the OP watch being a capped manual wind Seamaster is no exception. He is charging a premium price so it is fair to expect a premium product and if he is taking liberties with dial or case issues by fudging the photography then that is not on.
If you like the watch as it is, keep it, but if you paid for a perfect dial and received something less you should return it. Personally I prefer the actuality rather than the rather artificial website shot, which looked suspiciously clean for its age.
If you like the watch as it is, keep it, but if you paid for a perfect dial and received something less you should return it. Personally I prefer the actuality rather than the rather artificial website shot, which looked suspiciously clean for its age.
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jB1128
·Glad to know that you've reached out to the seller. As others have said, it really comes down to expectations and what you were looking to purchase. If those aren't aligned, then you should look to return the watch.
Though I've never purchased from him, Omega Enthusiast has a very solid reputation and it seems that there is a reasonable return policy.
I'm sure you're already well aware, but it's posted on the site: https://www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/shipping-returns
Good luck and keep us updated.
Though I've never purchased from him, Omega Enthusiast has a very solid reputation and it seems that there is a reasonable return policy.
I'm sure you're already well aware, but it's posted on the site: https://www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/shipping-returns
Good luck and keep us updated.
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Keefef6315
·thank you all for your input. I received the following response back from the dealer. He's clearly trying to do the right thing even if the patina isn't addressed.
I am so sorry for that little spot on the dial. Yes, it is 100% a small
debris/dust that got there. If there is a spot like that originally, it
will show clearly on all of my photos as I do not photo shop my images.
Please check image 6:
http://www.omegaenthusiast.com/OMESEA2THHTFIFMOFull.html
I think I see how this little spot got there. Look at the crystal ring
in between 11 and 12 o'clock, you can see a tiny dot which I may have
missed! Arrg, very upset about myself for that.
When a debris or dust land on a spot on a dial, it usually won't move
unless it get a correct tap to the case or need to take out the movement
and blow on the dial. Sigh.
If you do not mind, you can wear it as is for now as it won't affect the
performance of the watch in any matter. Or you can have a local watch
maker to help you blow it out or ship it back to me to have it blown out
as well. So sorry for this. I am always very cautious about having any
debris on the dial or on the crystal.
I am so sorry for that little spot on the dial. Yes, it is 100% a small
debris/dust that got there. If there is a spot like that originally, it
will show clearly on all of my photos as I do not photo shop my images.
Please check image 6:
http://www.omegaenthusiast.com/OMESEA2THHTFIFMOFull.html
I think I see how this little spot got there. Look at the crystal ring
in between 11 and 12 o'clock, you can see a tiny dot which I may have
missed! Arrg, very upset about myself for that.
When a debris or dust land on a spot on a dial, it usually won't move
unless it get a correct tap to the case or need to take out the movement
and blow on the dial. Sigh.
If you do not mind, you can wear it as is for now as it won't affect the
performance of the watch in any matter. Or you can have a local watch
maker to help you blow it out or ship it back to me to have it blown out
as well. So sorry for this. I am always very cautious about having any
debris on the dial or on the crystal.
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apsm100
··Noob taxpayerIf I was buying from a dealer, given that all the shots in the listing show a mint dial, I would be pretty gutted if I received it looking like that.
These two tone dials hide patina at certain angles so at least one shot showing the patina should have been included.
These two tone dials hide patina at certain angles so at least one shot showing the patina should have been included.
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rkman11
·thank you all for your input. I received the following response back from the dealer. He's clearly trying to do the right thing even if the patina isn't addressed.
I am so sorry for that little spot on the dial. Yes, it is 100% a small
debris/dust that got there. If there is a spot like that originally, it
will show clearly on all of my photos as I do not photo shop my images.
Please check image 6:
http://www.omegaenthusiast.com/OMESEA2THHTFIFMOFull.html
I think I see how this little spot got there. Look at the crystal ring
in between 11 and 12 o'clock, you can see a tiny dot which I may have
missed! Arrg, very upset about myself for that.
When a debris or dust land on a spot on a dial, it usually won't move
unless it get a correct tap to the case or need to take out the movement
and blow on the dial. Sigh.
If you do not mind, you can wear it as is for now as it won't affect the
performance of the watch in any matter. Or you can have a local watch
maker to help you blow it out or ship it back to me to have it blown out
as well. So sorry for this. I am always very cautious about having any
debris on the dial or on the crystal.
Nice quick detailed response, which is always appreciated but I’d say doesn’t speak to the bigger issue, which is the overall spotting on the dial that wasn’t disclosed or properly displayed in the images. I’d still say a return is in order.
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Keefef6315
·Nice quick detailed response, which is always appreciated but I’d say doesn’t speak to the bigger issue, which is the overall spotting on the dial that wasn’t disclosed or properly displayed in the images. I’d still say a return is in order.
I hate to admit it but you're probably right. I want to find a watch for my husband to be proud of and this one is nearly it. I know he wants a 1950's era Omega with Dauphine hands and gold case (capped or otherwise).
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JwRosenthal
·I hate to admit it but you're probably right. I want to find a watch for my husband to be proud of and this one is nearly it. I know he wants a 1950's era Omega with Dauphine hands and gold case (capped or otherwise).
Watch the sales section here, even with lower than 200 posts you can PM a seller and start a dialogue. You have 2 months and new watches pop up here daily. And it gets addictive, so watch out! You may end up with one for him and one for you!
And for $1.5-2k, you are in the full 14k ballpark
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JwRosenthal
·Here are a few that although not what you started with, would be sensational statement pieces as a gift (for him or yourself) and the cornerstones of a vintage collection - if he can do stainless as opposed to gold.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/fur...umper-w-waffle-dial-rose-gold-markers.107938/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-seamaster-14390-7-sc-1960.113556/
And this one as a gift to yourself for being so thoughtful - it’s just awesome.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/rolex-oyster-perpetual-ref-1003-circa-1960s.112422/
Sorry, I love shopping with other people’s money.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/fur...umper-w-waffle-dial-rose-gold-markers.107938/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-seamaster-14390-7-sc-1960.113556/
And this one as a gift to yourself for being so thoughtful - it’s just awesome.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/rolex-oyster-perpetual-ref-1003-circa-1960s.112422/
Sorry, I love shopping with other people’s money.
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DaveK
·... I want to find a watch for my husband to be proud of and this one is nearly it. I know he wants a 1950's era Omega with Dauphine hands and gold case (capped or otherwise).
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Keefef6315
·Here are a few that although not what you started with, would be sensational statement pieces as a gift (for him or yourself) and the cornerstones of a vintage collection - if he can do stainless as opposed to gold.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/fur...umper-w-waffle-dial-rose-gold-markers.107938/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-seamaster-14390-7-sc-1960.113556/
And this one as a gift to yourself for being so thoughtful - it’s just awesome.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/rolex-oyster-perpetual-ref-1003-circa-1960s.112422/
Sorry, I love shopping with other people’s money.
oh WOW the jumbo Omega Seamaster with Waffle is making me drool! Should I just hand over my credit card and let you do the shopping for me 😁😉
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·this just clearly shows again that this watch dealer is as good or as bad as any other watch dealer by hiding what really matters, the patina on the dial and also asking double of the market value of the watch. On this forum you could get a similar example for 500-700 USD instead of 1500 USD. This is one of the reasons I would never recommend to buy from a dealer. I don't think he has paid more than 400-500 USD for this watch with this dial when acquiring it. It makes me sad that people believe that they buy real value for their money if they buy such a watch and when the next owner decides to sell it he can expect to get 30% to 60% of the money back that he had paid for it.
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Dan S
·Regardless of that piece of debris, I'm not crazy about the way the photos in the listing are all taken under lighting conditions that hide the true condition of the dial. When I sell a watch, I want to make sure every flaw is noticeable, to avoid disappointment by the buyer.
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Keefef6315
·this just clearly shows again that this watch dealer is as good or as bad as any other watch dealer by hiding what really matters, the patina on the dial and also asking double of the market value of the watch. On this forum you could get a similar example for 500-700 USD instead of 1500 USD. This is one of the reasons I would never recommend to buy from a dealer. I don't think he has paid more than 400-500 USD for this watch with this dial when acquiring it. It makes me sad to buy such a watch and when the owner decides to sell it he can expect to get 30% or 50% of the money back he had paid for it.
I understand where you're coming from and I would agree. From my time researching I've learned a lot but I was willing to pay a premium to avoid getting swindled by a fake or redial. I'm getting better at spotting issues but I know I have a ways to go!
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·wouldn't be too sure about the dial conditions.
https://www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/product-page/1945-omega-vintage-watch
https://www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/product-page/1962-omega-seamaster-30-4
particularly the seamaster looks a bit too fresh and too white to me but ill let other members comment
https://www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/product-page/1945-omega-vintage-watch
https://www.omegaenthusiastltd.com/product-page/1962-omega-seamaster-30-4
particularly the seamaster looks a bit too fresh and too white to me but ill let other members comment
