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New Seamaster Purchase - Opinion Needed!

gbesq
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I would add to JwRosenthal's very informative post that over time there has also been some variation in the tiers of Omega's lines as well as some mixing of model names. The Genève, for example, is no longer manufactured. If I remember correctly, the Genève line was introduced in 1953. At that time, it was second only to the Constellation line in Omega's stable of dress watches. From 1965 to 1967, Omega sold watches with "Seamaster Genève" on the dial. After that they went back to "Genève," the line moved more toward an entry level watch in Omega's hierarchy, and the line was ultimately discontinued in 1979. There are also Seamaster De Ville models, and so forth. The early Genèves, particularly those from the 1950s, are very nice watches and many have desirable features like arrowhead indices, seconds subdials, crosshair dials, rose gold cases, etc. Very collectible in my opinion..
 
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Very Valuable @JwRosenthal ! I'm curious - Some Omega's especially before the 1960s don't have a model displayed on the dial. I'm assuming this fact does not make any of these more or less valuable but how should a collector categorize these?

Not having a model name makes a pretty big dent in the value, but that is due to the relative market position of the watch and how the market has developed in general over the last fifty years rather than ny inherent trait of the watch. For instance, your watch was available as both with or without any model name on the dial, without any differences in design otherwise. Not naming your models would be downright unthinkable today and the customers have grown used to the notion that a watch shouldn't just be "an Omega", but an "Omega Seamaster" - therefore they look for that when looking for a vintage watch.

I prefer the 2639/2640 line of Omegas to the 2791/2892/etc. due to the screwdown case back, but none of these have any dial litterature other than "Omega" and are worth less than a comparable 2791 type watch with "Seamaster" on the dial.

At one point I had both non-named and Seamaster version of 2792 and 2892, sorry for old and fairly rubbish photo:

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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
Not having a model name makes a pretty big dent in the value, but that is due to the relative market position of the watch and how the market has developed in general over the last fifty years rather than ny inherent trait of the watch. For instance, your watch was available as both with or without any model name on the dial, without any differences in design otherwise. Not naming your models would be downright unthinkable today and the customers have grown used to the notion that a watch shouldn't just be "an Omega", but an "Omega Seamaster" - therefore they look for that when looking for a vintage watch.

I prefer the 2639/2640 line of Omegas to the 2791/2892/etc. due to the screwdown case back, but none of these have any dial litterature other than "Omega" and are worth less than a comparable 2791 type watch with "Seamaster" on the dial.

At one point I had both non-named and Seamaster version of 2792 and 2892, sorry for old and fairly rubbish photo:

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NOW I understand. @ConElPueblo this is Exactly what I was trying to understand and you've solved the mystery for me!
 
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...then we start having packages shipped to the office, or when we know we will be home alone....wait...did I just over-share?
been there, done that.... lol
 
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Thank you @gbesq and @ConElPueblo for elaborating further. After I made that post I realized I was focusing on a very narrow section of their watch line from the 50’s- 60’s and there were far more variants in there for each line...and lest mention other lines with variants like the Speedmasters, Flightmasters, Railmasters, Chronostop, Cosmics....yeah, there are whole books on the subject.
 
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my KL6312 is one of those "unmarked" no name Omega models... with the rare 560 cal. i love it.
my omega KL6312.JPG
 
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Did you manage to resolve your issue with the watch and OE ?

I've been waiting to purchase for a couple of years now but the more I read and see the more cautious I become. I had been looking at OE website for a few weeks as he seemed to be the perfect solution for a newbie, even though I realise his prices are high.The guarantee of an original example really appealed, now i'm not so sure.
 
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Did you manage to resolve your issue with the watch and OE ?

I've been waiting to purchase for a couple of years now but the more I read and see the more cautious I become. I had been looking at OE website for a few weeks as he seemed to be the perfect solution for a newbie, even though I realise his prices are high.The guarantee of an original example really appealed, now i'm not so sure.
I’ll be honest, although I wasn’t thrilled that the picture didn’t highlight the level of patina/discoloration, OE was a compete gentleman and was willing to do everything to rectify the issue including a full refund, exchange, or cleaning of the dust (which he was upset he missed). Yes his prices are higher but given his willingness to do everything to make it better, it would be hard to give him bad marks.

While I wasn’t happy at first, he did all he could to turn the situation around.
 
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I’ll be honest, although I wasn’t thrilled that the picture didn’t highlight the level of patina/discoloration, OE was a compete gentleman and was willing to do everything to rectify the issue including a full refund, exchange, or cleaning of the dust (which he was upset he missed). Yes his prices are higher but given his willingness to do everything to make it better, it would be hard to give him bad marks.

While I wasn’t happy at first, he did all he could to turn the situation around.
Good follow up and props to the seller- it’s important to share the efforts a seller makes to rectify a mistake and not just highlight the errors as is so often done.
 
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