New 2026 Pie-Pan Constellation Observatory Model Out Now (Pics / Video)

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A closer comparison might be to an all steel Oyster Perpetual, although there is a size difference. Is a Co-Axial escapement without a seconds hand and without a bracelet really worth almost $4,000 more?

You also are buying into a Rolex ecosystem that has a track record of protecting the value of your investment as much as possible vs. Omega’s short term pump and dump treatment (except for the classic Speedmaster).

The numbers don’t work here.
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These constellations are not being cross-shopped with OPs.

They’re both date less watches, but one is clearly a casual sports watch and the other is very very much a dress watch - so much so, that it lacks a second hand. These constellations take their role as dress watches very seriously. Minus the proportions.
 
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Yeah I would have thought that this would have been the right model- one focused on accuracy. This must mean that spirate doesn’t work as advertised

Agreed, however I still think Omega’s movements these days are a bit of a gimmick. A well preserved omega 500 series movement can achieve incredibly accuracy, Rolex 3135 movements can be fettled to an incredible degree. I think it’s fantastic that watch movement continue to become more robust but things like the spirate to me are just marketing fluff. Something I personally wouldn’t notice nor care about a great degree. At least until it filters down to become the standard and is in all their movements. Currently it’s a bit of extra accuracy for a lot more money as far as I could work out.
 
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Which one would you choose? If it's not the Omega right from the go, the question then becomes Why?

Woe is me, Vacheron taste, Omega budget...

OH, wait a minute!
 
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This must mean that spirate doesn’t work as advertised
I think that is a massive leap to make such a claim...
 
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I suspect Omega pulled back on spirate regulation system because they realized it was going to encourage every Tom, Dick, and Harry to open the caseback and start fiddling around with it. Which could create all kinds of possible harm if done by someone not fully trained and aware of how to not contaminate the movement with dust and debris or otherwise damage the movement. And then not properly close up the watch.
 
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These constellations take their role as dress watches very seriously. Minus the proportions.
Only in the minds of the Omega marketing team, otherwise the proportions would be fixed.
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I suspect Omega pulled back on spirate regulation system because they realized it was going to encourage every Tom, Dick, and Harry to open the caseback and start fiddling around with it. Which could create all kinds of possible harm if done by someone not fully trained and aware of how to not contaminate the movement with dust and debris or otherwise damage the movement. And then not properly close up the watch.
I think you overestimate the number of people who would ever open the back of a watch.
 
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I think they also did some things well with this release. I think to expect a 32mm pie pan model like the 1960 versions is unrealistic and a bit to romantic. We as Omega enthusiasts must accept that we are a minority of buyers. A ,,normal,, customer maybe ask if the watch is water resistent(i dont understand the 30m on this one) and how long it will run.

I Like the applied logo
I like that they reconsidered an old model
I like the case and i dont think its to thick

I dont understand the observatory line….


I Hope its like the seamaster 300 MC where they release a second generation of them.

But i have to agree with you that this watch is much to expensive.
 
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The classic vintage Constellation was 34.5mm or 35mm. ( depending on the reference)

I don’t think the new watch should be as small as the classic Constellation either but something nearer the 37mm jumbo wouldn’t have been a bad idea.
 
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The classic vintage Constellation was 34.5mm or 35mm. ( depending on the reference)

I don’t think the new watch should be as small as the classic Constellation either but something nearer the 37mm jumbo wouldn’t have been a bad idea.

I find this opinion quite interesting as I see it a fair bit. Lots of people seem to like the 37-38mm range.

My question is why? When we look back to vintage watches all of them were 34-36mm for an everyday watch outside of divers and chronographs.

Why is it we insist that modern watches must be bigger by a few millimetres?

I don’t feel the human body has changed a great deal then so that we all of a sudden have much larger wrists. I believe this is a phenomenon of the last 25 years where everything has become rather gaudy and obtuse. You can see it with car design. It’s like the designers just never stop with details and end up with this sort of artistic vomit all over their sketchbook with spoilers and fins and vents everywhere with each generation larger and larger.

I think proportionality is lost in modern design and we’ve truly forgotten the art of restraint.

The Seamaster 300m and Speedmaster are there for those who want a bigger watch. They’ve remained true to size. Why cant the constellation?
 
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It's a bit too large, and a lot too expensive, for my liking... it does look good though.
 
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I find this opinion quite interesting as I see it a fair bit. Lots of people seem to like the 37-38mm range.

My question is why? When we look back to vintage watches all of them were 34-36mm for an everyday watch outside of divers and chronographs.

Why is it we insist that modern watches must be bigger by a few millimetres?

I don’t feel the human body has changed a great deal then so that we all of a sudden have much larger wrists. I believe this is a phenomenon of the last 25 years where everything has become rather gaudy and obtuse. You can see it with car design. It’s like the designers just never stop with details and end up with this sort of artistic vomit all over their sketchbook with spoilers and fins and vents everywhere with each generation larger and larger.

I think proportionality is lost in modern design and we’ve truly forgotten the art of restraint.

The Seamaster 300m and Speedmaster are there for those who want a bigger watch. They’ve remained true to size. Why cant the constellation?
Omega also has a business to run. And outside of vintage forum members I don't think there is a big demand for 34mm watches. It's a great size for me (wearing one now) and 38 is my preferred size.

I do understand your point generally. Especially as it relates to cars. Compare a vintage 911 and a new 911 - the new one is twice as big and half as cool.
 
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I find this opinion quite interesting as I see it a fair bit. Lots of people seem to like the 37-38mm range.

My question is why? When we look back to vintage watches all of them were 34-36mm for an everyday watch outside of divers and chronographs.

Why is it we insist that modern watches must be bigger by a few millimetres?

I don’t feel the human body has changed a great deal then so that we all of a sudden have much larger wrists. I believe this is a phenomenon of the last 25 years where everything has become rather gaudy and obtuse. You can see it with car design. It’s like the designers just never stop with details and end up with this sort of artistic vomit all over their sketchbook with spoilers and fins and vents everywhere with each generation larger and larger.

I think proportionality is lost in modern design and we’ve truly forgotten the art of restraint.

The Seamaster 300m and Speedmaster are there for those who want a bigger watch. They’ve remained true to size. Why cant the constellation?
Well now, there’s a few bits to comment on in your post.

Firstly, Omega watches were generally much smaller before they became enlarged to 34/35mm in the late 50s and 60s.
The human body didn’t change - only style changed at that point.

Whilst I too think the general trend towards dinner-plate sized watches is, at the very least, ostentatious - there is no accounting for the taste of others and if that is where the market leads then who are we to say watch companies shouldn’t service that demand.

However, I don’t think advocating for a modern 37mm watch (the size of the 60s jumbo Constellation) is losing proportionality or exercising a lack of restraint - quite the reverse in fact as it would be reigning in the current excesses of watch design.

And the reason that the Speedmaster has remained more or less the same is because it was a reasonably large watch in the first place. (And it’s a moot point anyway as it isn’t a dress watch. )
 
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You can actually get a 6119. You’ll just need to wait. Nautilus, Aquanaut, Cubitis, and maybe a handful of other watches that are impossible
6119 and Patrimony can be easily found under MSRP. No way I'm putting that kind of money into a gold Omega when these two are readily available in the same price range or less.
 
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I'd love to see market research with regard to case size and popularity/sales. Maybe we are the ones out of touch with respect to what the public wants.
 
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I'd love to see market research with regard to case size and popularity/sales. Maybe we are the ones out of touch with respect to what the public wants.

I wonder this too, but when literally every social media site and often reviewers and influencers comment on the size issue, you have to question it. I know not all buyers have enough care to follow market sentiment but if they don't care at 39 mm, would they not care at 36 mm? Maybe Omega can have their cake and eat it too by appeasing watch fans and the general public who might not think about these things and just want a fancy looking watch with a fancy brand on the dial.
 
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I wonder this too, but when literally every social media site and often reviewers and influencers comment on the size issue, you have to question it. I know not all buyers have enough care to follow market sentiment but if they don't care at 39 mm, would they not care at 36 mm? Maybe Omega can have their cake and eat it too by appeasing watch fans and the general public who might not think about these things and just want a fancy looking watch with a fancy brand on the dial.

I'm going to take Omega's side for moment, even though I think the watch is too large. I think most people don't distinguish between a diver and dress watch when it comes to size. I think people on this site and watch enthusiasts in general know a dress watch should be smaller than a diver because that's the way it's traditionally been and because dress watches nearly always need to fit under a shirt cuff. It's more elegant and classy in a smaller size.

But I think your average Joe thinks 35 or 36 or 37mm is a woman's size and that no self-respecting man would wear a watch of that size, whether it's a dress watch or a dive/sports watch. So Omega tries to keep the watch on the larger size to appeal to those buyers, but have the case size start with a 3 to try to placate the traditionalists.

Keep in mind the Rolex 1908 has a 39mm case and not too many people complain about the diameter. Although it is much thinner than the new Constellation.
 
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I'm going to take Omega's side for moment, even though I think the watch is too large. I think most people don't distinguish between a diver and dress watch when it comes to size. I think people on this site and watch enthusiasts in general know a dress watch should be smaller than a diver because that's the way it's traditionally been and because dress watches nearly always need to fit under a shirt cuff. It's more elegant and classy in a smaller size.

But I think your average Joe thinks 35 or 36 or 37mm is a woman's size and that no self-respecting man would wear a watch of that size, whether it's a dress watch or a dive/sports watch. So Omega tries to keep the watch on the larger size to appeal to those buyers, but have the case size start with a 3 to try to placate the traditionalists.

Keep in mind the Rolex 1908 has a 39mm case and not too many people complain about the diameter. Although it is much thinner than the new Constellation.

Fair points. Also arguably my favourite dress watch, the JLC Master Ultra Thin, is only available for men in a 39 as well. They do a 36 (I think it was) but it's got a really weird lug width and is clearly intended to be a women's watch. My feeling is 39 for a dial only watch with a tiny bezel is proportionally poor. But I guess I could be in the minority.

The thickness thing is a bit different as my feeling is while many people want a thinner dress watch, nobody wants a thicker dress watch.
 
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Well now, there’s a few bits to comment on in your post.

Firstly, Omega watches were generally much smaller before they became enlarged to 34/35mm in the late 50s and 60s.
The human body didn’t change - only style changed at that point.

Whilst I too think the general trend towards dinner-plate sized watches is, at the very least, ostentatious - there is no accounting for the taste of others and if that is where the market leads then who are we to say watch companies shouldn’t service that demand.

However, I don’t think advocating for a modern 37mm watch (the size of the 60s jumbo Constellation) is losing proportionality or exercising a lack of restraint - quite the reverse in fact as it would be reigning in the current excesses of watch design.

And the reason that the Speedmaster has remained more or less the same is because it was a reasonably large watch in the first place. (And it’s a moot point anyway as it isn’t a dress watch. )

Some very fair points raised there @Peemacgee
I completely overlooked the fact that the watches that preceded that era were indeed smaller.

Maybe I’m letting my emotions get in the way of reason. I just wish it wasn’t nearly 40mm 😂

Still, we can dream! Oh.,, and enjoy our vintage connies
 
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Omega also has a business to run. And outside of vintage forum members I don't think there is a big demand for 34mm watches. It's a great size for me (wearing one now) and 38 is my preferred size.

I do understand your point generally. Especially as it relates to cars. Compare a vintage 911 and a new 911 - the new one is twice as big and half as cool.

Absolutely. They’ve still absolutely overshot the size mark with this release. Even 38mm would’ve been more reasonable.

Still, times are changing and sizes do seem to be shifting towards smaller watches. Even if omega hasn’t quite realised it yet.

Shame we can’t say the same for the car industry! Hence why I bought an ND mx5. The fourth generation is actually smaller than the 3rd one. Mazda are listening!