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23bmoney23
·Let me know if you need anything else... how would the seller go about taking off the caseback to see movement which I imagine would be a lot more definitive?
Need Help: Authentic Vintage Omega Seamaster de Ville?
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Dan S
·This watch has no caseback. Please post photos with the hands moved so that the printing can be seen. A bit of an introduction, some context, and an asking price would also be welcome. You have joined a community of enthusiasts, not a free appraisal service.
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23bmoney23
·Asking price: ~$500 USD (which is why it caught my eye)
Attached video: Should make printing more legible (this is all I was able to get from the seller)
Context: This is not my watch; I am trying to buy it. I was thinking some Ref 166.020? It has coat-hanger "S" & de Ville with "Swiss Made T" on the bottom. Could possibly be towards the tail-end of 1962 as later models would've had the flat/round S and older models wouldn't have had the de Ville below?
P.S.: Dude, I understand it doesn't have a "caseback," you would have to go through the steps of removing the crown and everything else etc. like all the other models - it's a one piece case. I was just wondering if there is a way for the seller (who doesn't have any expertise) to disassemble or does he need to go into local jeweler/watchmaker as seeing the movement would be much more definitive.
Attached video: Should make printing more legible (this is all I was able to get from the seller)
Context: This is not my watch; I am trying to buy it. I was thinking some Ref 166.020? It has coat-hanger "S" & de Ville with "Swiss Made T" on the bottom. Could possibly be towards the tail-end of 1962 as later models would've had the flat/round S and older models wouldn't have had the de Ville below?
P.S.: Dude, I understand it doesn't have a "caseback," you would have to go through the steps of removing the crown and everything else etc. like all the other models - it's a one piece case. I was just wondering if there is a way for the seller (who doesn't have any expertise) to disassemble or does he need to go into local jeweler/watchmaker as seeing the movement would be much more definitive.
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ErichKeane
·Everythign DanS said is correct here. From my eye, the word 'automatic' looks weird, it doesn't look even/original to me.
As far as removing the movement from the case, that isn't something you can do without a crystal lift, so he'd have to go to a watchmaker (even most jewelers aren't going to have one). That said, check your attitude on that one. You explicitly asked about the caseback, and Dan mentioned it didn't have one, don't sass a guy trying to help you, particularly when you're here asking for us to do your work on this for you.
As far as removing the movement from the case, that isn't something you can do without a crystal lift, so he'd have to go to a watchmaker (even most jewelers aren't going to have one). That said, check your attitude on that one. You explicitly asked about the caseback, and Dan mentioned it didn't have one, don't sass a guy trying to help you, particularly when you're here asking for us to do your work on this for you.
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23bmoney23
·Hey, sorry, didn't mean to have an attitude at all, I really appreciate any help!
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaMy first instinct was that it's a redial.
A quick look at the automatic and the Seamaster, and the one o'clock index make me 75.35% sure it is.
A quick look at the automatic and the Seamaster, and the one o'clock index make me 75.35% sure it is.
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SOG53
·Agree it’s 166.020. Enlarged photo shows dial imperfections that have been painted over IMO. I would not buy as an original watch. These are plentiful no need to buy redial.
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23bmoney23
·Just got pictures back of the movement
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Porteroso
·Even at $500, it's not something I'd buy. I almost bought a similar reference for $550, with a great original dial, point being these do pop up at affordable prices.
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jjen
·The printing on the dial looks a little off to me
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ErichKeane
·Dial seems a little wonky as I said, but the movement is a little rough/dirty/has not-great-done service marks/etc (the fact that it is DIRTY for a watch that is basically never opened except for service, is a red flag).
IF it were me, I MIGHT take a $250 flyer on it, simply because I enjoy trying to service/repair these sorts of things (and would try to source a good dial... or live with that one depending on how the service went!), but I wouldn't consider picking that up as a watch for my wrist.
IF it were me, I MIGHT take a $250 flyer on it, simply because I enjoy trying to service/repair these sorts of things (and would try to source a good dial... or live with that one depending on how the service went!), but I wouldn't consider picking that up as a watch for my wrist.
