Need help. Advice on vintage speedy. My first watch. 145.022 69 pre moon

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You're way out on your numbers there mate. I doubt that there is any 861 with a serial as low as 26 or 27m.

Actually there are, but they are 145.022-68s.
 
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Considering the condition of the watch and the original bracelet, and hypothetically the caseback and serial are correct, I'd say $5 is the top of the market for these right now but next year, this will be worth at least as much...
 
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I have in my collection

145.012-68 (321) 265532xx
145.022-68 (861) 265578xx
 
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I guess Chuck and Roman Hartmann got it wrong......😕
Research on vintage speedmasters has come on leaps and bounds since Chuck passed. Turns out he wasn't always right.
 
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I paid about half of that asking for the same model about a year ago - but the condition on this one blows mine away - I bought mine as a 'beater' but in all honesty I would rather have put more money into something like this... Depends what you are after I guess, but I think it's worth it if you like it. I would think you would find a ready buyer base for this if you change your mind at any stage ...
 
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Everyone. Thank you for your advice. I will keep you guys updated. And once i get pictures of the caseback. I will post pics. Thank you everyone
 
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My '68 was a 26xxxxxx and my '69 was 29xxxxxxx.

Given that this is a DoN bezel I'd put good money on it having a 29xxxxxx serial.

Regarding the price. I think $5k is very top end. Do you want a pristine watch or are you going to wear it? If you're specifically looking for a great condition '69 I think you can just about make the case for paying it. Just be aware that you can get nice examples, albeit not in the condition this is in, for half the price, and good examples for $3k+
 
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My '68 was a 26xxxxxx and my '69 was 29xxxxxxx.

Given that this is a DoN bezel I'd put good money on it having a 29xxxxxx serial.

Regarding the price. I think $5k is very top end. Do you want a pristine watch or are you going to wear it? If you're specifically looking for a great condition '69 I think you can just about make the case for paying it. Just be aware that you can get nice examples, albeit not in the condition this is in, for half the price, and good examples for $3k+
Yes sir. I am trying to wear this watch everyday. But i want to feel like im getting almost a new watch even though i know its preowned. One of the members told me his quote on this watch. What price would you feel is fair sir.
 
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It's not a million miles away.
My thinking is that in the last year, two genuine NOS 69 speedmasters have sold for around $5k (both were on this forum). These both had boxes and papers, were unworn and had the sales tags in tact. In otherwise, genuine collector grade pieces and they sold for c.$5k. A couple of lovely 69's, all correct and in very good condition have sold around $3k.

This example is in exceptional condition. But it has been worn, has the odd mark and doesn't have boxes, papers etc. Pre-moon Speedmasters have most definitely shifted in price in the last year but 861's don't seem to have increased. Or have they?
As I write this I'm thinking that they probably have increased slightly and the watches I mentioned above may well go for more than $5k right now.
This is probably of absolutely no help to you but I'd feel 4200-4500 is a more realistic price. Then again, if you love it and you have to have it, what's $800 between friends?!
Personally, if I was blowing $5k on a Speedmaster, I'd be looking for a nice 145.012. It'd be a chase but that's half the fun!
 
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It's not a million miles away.
My thinking is that in the last year, two genuine NOS 69 speedmasters have sold for around $5k (both were on this forum). These both had boxes and papers, were unworn and had the sales tags in tact. In otherwise, genuine collector grade pieces and they sold for c.$5k. A couple of lovely 69's, all correct and in very good condition have sold around $3k.

This example is in exceptional condition. But it has been worn, has the odd mark and doesn't have boxes, papers etc. Pre-moon Speedmasters have most definitely shifted in price in the last year but 861's don't seem to have increased. Or have they?
As I write this I'm thinking that they probably have increased slightly and the watches I mentioned above may well go for more than $5k right now.
This is probably of absolutely no help to you but I'd feel 4200-4500 is a more realistic price. Then again, if you love it and you have to have it, what's $800 between friends?!
Personally, if I was blowing $5k on a Speedmaster, I'd be looking for a nice 145.012. It'd be a chase but that's half the fun!
Would i be able to get a good condition one. Like this one or close?
 
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It's not a million miles away.
My thinking is that in the last year, two genuine NOS 69 speedmasters have sold for around $5k (both were on this forum). These both had boxes and papers, were unworn and had the sales tags in tact. In otherwise, genuine collector grade pieces and they sold for c.$5k. A couple of lovely 69's, all correct and in very good condition have sold around $3k.

This example is in exceptional condition. But it has been worn, has the odd mark and doesn't have boxes, papers etc. Pre-moon Speedmasters have most definitely shifted in price in the last year but 861's don't seem to have increased. Or have they?
As I write this I'm thinking that they probably have increased slightly and the watches I mentioned above may well go for more than $5k right now.
This is probably of absolutely no help to you but I'd feel 4200-4500 is a more realistic price. Then again, if you love it and you have to have it, what's $800 between friends?!
Personally, if I was blowing $5k on a Speedmaster, I'd be looking for a nice 145.012. It'd be a chase but that's half the fun!

I was looking for the link to those NOS 69s and couldn't find them. I seem to recall that the last one had a DNN bezel which is an important distinction.
 
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I was looking for the link to those NOS 69s and couldn't find them. I seem to recall that the last one had a DNN bezel which is an important distinction.
So in your honest opinion. As an everyday watch. But still collectible and i would keep it as a watch to one day pass down to my future son. For the prices im looking at. Which watches realistically can i get that are in good condition pre moon. Thank younsir for your responses.
 
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I wouldn't buy this watch for every day use.
 
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I wouldn't buy this watch for every day use.

I hate to beat a dead horse but the reason I sold my '69 was the almost perfect faded blue DON bezel.
The thoughts of doing what I eventually do to my daily beater would have been a terrible injustice.
 
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Why not sir?

Because I wouldn't like my $5,000 watch to be worth $3,000.
 
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Because I wouldn't like my $5,000 watch to be worth $3,000.
So which watch would you reccomend then sir. One that would still be premoon.
 
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So which watch would you reccomend then sir. One that would still be premoon.
Or in general. Which watch?
 
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Hey Noles_88, if you like the watch, then buy it. If you wear it, it will get more worn and that will affect value.

No one here can tell you which watch you want.

Here's some that are currently available to give you an idea of the spread.

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=145.022-69&last_days=4&brand=omega

It might be wise to take a step back, learn more and then zero in on what you really want.
 
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Hey Noles_88, if you like the watch, then buy it. If you wear it, it will get more worn and that will affect value.

No one here can tell you which watch you want.

Here's some that are currently available to give you an idea of the spread.

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=145.022-69&last_days=4&brand=omega

It might be wise to take a step back, learn more and then zero in on what you really want.
Ok your right. Got into the convo too much. I just wanted to know. If the value of 5000 is too much. And if looks original. Thank you for snapping me back into it. Lol.