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Hi guys newbie here!

Got this Vintage Omega Guilloche Dial that i think quite unique and interesting, ive seen a lot of honeycomb dial and other texture dial ect but nothing like this. its on cal 420 and the ref num on the caseback is 2647-1.

i know the dial is not in great condition but this dial texture is just mesmerizing to me

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let me know what you think guys! cheers
 
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The dial texture might be original, but it has been repainted, which makes it pretty much undesirable for 99% of collectors.
 
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What I think happened here is that someone tried to clean this dial improperly. The result was that most of the original printing and radium is gone.

While I’m not a lover of redials and agree that it kills collector value, this is a candidate for a proper redial. You will need to find someone with access to a 1950’s style Omega font. Something like this:

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While it will never be perfect, the watch will then be recognizable as a vintage Omega.

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
 
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I would not let ppl get you down about the watch. It is a rare and attractive dial style. Not all omega buyers are after original dials and cases that still show all original wear and tear.

I understand those that prefer the museum piece omegas, they are great, but this watch will look amazing on wrist with a proper dial refinish and to 90%+ of future owners will be prized, watch collectors excepted.

If it were mine, I would get it redone and enjoy the piece for what it is.
 
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banshee banshee
The dial texture might be original, but it has been repainted, which makes it pretty much undesirable for 99% of collectors.

I see thanks for the comments man, yeah its unfortunate right! i haven't seen this texture dial before so i think it might be quite interesting
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
What I think happened here is that someone tried to clean this dial improperly. The result was that most of the original printing and radium is gone.

While I’m not a lover of redials and agree that it kills collector value, this is a candidate for a proper redial. You will need to find someone with access to a 1950’s style Omega font. Something like this:

upload_2021-10-27_22-34-26.png


While it will never be perfect, the watch will then be recognizable as a vintage Omega.

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa

Yeah unfortunately right! thanks for the pointers man, do you know any professional painter that you could recommend?
 
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Claven2 Claven2
I would not let ppl get you down about the watch. It is a rare and attractive dial style. Not all omega buyers are after original dials and cases that still show all original wear and tear.

I understand those that prefer the museum piece omegas, they are great, but this watch will look amazing on wrist with a proper dial refinish and to 90%+ of future owners will be prized, watch collectors excepted.

If it were mine, I would get it redone and enjoy the piece for what it is.

Amen brother, i like the way as is right now tbh, that dial is just capture me, but if i could find a professional to get a proper re-dial i might consider it. just wondering have you seen this guilloche dial before tho, i could only found 1 pic in the internet as well

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Personal opinion only, I don't expect it to be popular:

Assuming GatorCPA is correct, the dial was improperly washed, but not repainted, I would leave it and enjoy it as is. If the dial is missing some original paint, I would be content if the paint that is on there is factory original. You can always have a dial repainted in the future, but you can never go back once it's been repainted.

Plus, I think the ghost Omega signature is cool:
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It hasn’t been repainted just inappropriately cleaned.

I would leave as it is - ghosted omega logo is better than a bad redial.
 
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sleepyastronaut sleepyastronaut
Personal opinion only, I don't expect it to be popular:

Assuming GatorCPA is correct, the dial was improperly washed, but not repainted, I would leave it and enjoy it as is. If the dial is missing some original paint, I would be content if the paint that is on there is factory original. You can always have a dial repainted in the future, but you can never go back once it's been repainted.

Plus, I think the ghost Omega signature is cool:
1950_vintage_omega_caliber_420_1631975656_871e2cc5_progressive-01.jpeg

I hear you man, bring up a good point there about a repainted dial!
yeah its kindda like if you want to look at it its there but otherwise will got lost in the dial
 
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OllieOnTheRocks OllieOnTheRocks
It hasn’t been repainted just inappropriately cleaned.

I would leave as it is - ghosted omega logo is better than a bad redial.

100% haha bad redial is the worst! well next to fake dial *smh
 
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