My Jumbo Omega 14396 with the 'linen' dial pattern. What are the differences compared to 60s linen?

Hello, all members,😀

In this thread, I will specifically focus on Omega watches with the linen dial pattern.

I believe that most Omega watches with the linen dial can be found in both the Seamaster and Constellation models, particularly in the straight lugs or C-shaped cases. Thanks to this forum and Google for some examples, including close-up pictures.



Most of the special dials for the 4-digit references were 'waffle' or what some might call 'textured' dials. This pattern is exemplified by my 2652 and 2782, as well as the 2887 found on the internet.



I have been wondering what the earliest model to use this 'linen' pattern might be.
My research suggests that it could be reference 2887. The picture and movement number shown below indicate a production date around 1958-1959.



While I could not find the linen pattern in reference 2943, it appears later in Constellation models like reference 14396 (two examples) and reference 14777 (one example).



Today, I would like to share my 14396-1 SC.

It has a gold-capped case with gold hardware.
The movement is caliber 505 (24 jewels) with serial number 16,671,xxx. Comparing this to an extract from another example, the production date is likely around late 1959 to early 1960.
In my opinion, the dial is the original linen dial with very tiny spots from aging.
All hour markers are squared, with double markers at 12 o'clock, similar to two known examples.
Caliber 505 is correct and looks clean.
The observatory and all-star medallion on the case back are still intact.
The case was polished in the past.



More close-up pictures:



At first, when I saw this nice 14396 with the linen dial for sale in this forum (already sold by @nanjingcigaretes), I wondered why the close-up picture of that watch showed a pattern I had never seen before.
I don't exactly know how to describe it, but Desmond (@mondodec) referred to it as a 'silky guilloché' dial.



More close-up pictures from me; please note the same pattern as the above example.



At some angles, it resembles a 'snake scale' pattern.😲



This picture shows both types of these patterns in the same watch, as marked by the yellow and green arrows.



Here is a picture of my duo with the same 'linen' dial, but please note that it looks different in the close-up picture between my Constellation and Seamaster.



Finally, my wrist shot:



I apologize for the abundance of pictures.😉

Thank you, everyone, for your comments.
If anyone has the 'linen' dial pattern in any Omega model from the 1950s or early 1960s, please share.
Additionally, if anyone knows the name of this dial, please let me know.😀

Best,
Teerapat

Nice watch and post Teerapat.

What's your take on the double crossed t's of "Constellation" on this dial style? A 16.6 mil serial number cal 505 is both very late and also not the typical bumper movement associated with this dial characteristic.

Thank you, @cristos71, for raising this point.

Fortunately, I have at least two other watches with the same dial pattern and reference.

Interestingly, my movement number is nearly identical to the example provided by @nanjingcigaretes, differing by only one digit 😲
(mine is 100 earlier).

Also, thanks for an extract provided by @Banner Roar , confirm that the serial number as high as 16,517,xxx caliber 505 matches with the ref.14396.

This finding aligns with the classic quote for Omega: "Never say never."😁

@Peemacgee and @cristos71.

I am still confused as to why Omega uses a combination of slanted and straight 'Ms,' but not crossed 'Ts' in another jumbo reference 14395.

My example of ref.14395:

Yes these anomalies are very interesting, do you think these special dialed jumbos were more produced for the Asian market?

I believe that these jumbo versions were produced for the Asian market, and from an extract I found, most of them will be delivered to Japan.

Great post as always Teerapat. Thank you!

Thank you @stormysky10 , @nanjingcigaretes and @Neeb for you comment.

I agree with @Neeb that the linen dial on my watch (also the early version of linen) is made in an entirely different way when compared to later version (crosshatched in two directions).

Thanks for sharing. Great write up as usual Teerapat! 👍

2887 Gold cap.

The Forum is worth it just because of this thread of lovely Constellations!

Beautiful. 👍I’ve always loved those Omega textured dials, bit late to hunt for one though as I’m afraid you all have now cornered the market 🙄

Thanks @watched , @MSNWatch , @noelekal and @Syrte .

Very nice example, @MSNWatch 👍
It can confirm my research that the earliest linen dial could be the reference 2887.

@noelekal and @Syrte , I’m glad you liked it.😀