My first vintage speedmaster 145.022-69

[Emptyship]

I have just found my first vintage speedmaster.
It is a 145.022-69 pre-moon.
The condition of this watch seems to be nice. The line and the shape of the case is still sharp. (maybe slightly polished). The bezel and the caseback of this watch is correct. And it is together with the 1039/516 bracelet.
The 861 caliber's serial number is right（30.xxx.xxx）, according to the book Moonwatch Only.(This book helps me a lot when finding one.)
All functions are still working.
The central second hand of the chronograph may have been repainted or replaced, but it is the correct one with tritium.
I think this is a correct vintage speedmaster. Since it is my first trial, i tried to be careful and started with a 861 (instead of a 321).
After this i will try to seek an Ed White 105.003.

 

[wagudc]

Congrats!

 

[hansaboy]

Welcome, and a question…

Found = you own it now?

Then very Welcome!


And you have done some research before, but has the watch had a service?

You can also check the serial nr with this lovely website:
https://www.ilovemyspeedmaster.com/productiondateprediction/

Enjoy your watch, and once again - Welcome (to the never ending search for Speedys…)!

 

[Emptyship]

hansaboy

Welcome, and a question…

Found = you own it now?

Then very Welcome!


And you have done some research before, but has the watch had a service?

You can also check the serial nr with this lovely website:
https://www.ilovemyspeedmaster.com/productiondateprediction/

Enjoy your watch, and once again - Welcome (to the never ending search for Speedys…)!

yes,i own it. Now i'm wearing it

 

[paddymoran]

Congrats on your Speedy - I think you’ve given a fair description. Nice to have the 1039/516.

 

[Emptyship]

hansaboy

Welcome, and a question…

Found = you own it now?

Then very Welcome!


And you have done some research before, but has the watch had a service?

You can also check the serial nr with this lovely website:
https://www.ilovemyspeedmaster.com/productiondateprediction/

Enjoy your watch, and once again - Welcome (to the never ending search for Speedys…)!

The movement is working with +9s per day, seems to be nice. But the pusher of the chronograph is tight. (a little bit hard to push down, but still can use) . I think it still need to have a service recently.

 

[Emptyship]

hansaboy

Welcome, and a question…

Found = you own it now?

Then very Welcome!


And you have done some research before, but has the watch had a service?

You can also check the serial nr with this lovely website:
https://www.ilovemyspeedmaster.com/productiondateprediction/

Enjoy your watch, and once again - Welcome (to the never ending search for Speedys…)!

Thank for your kindly advice! The serial number is correct according to this website! Excited！

 

[hansaboy]

Nice with the movement check, but don't thank me, thank the author of the website:
@eugeneandresson
But you must have looked here?
https://speedmaster101.com/145-022_update/

Did the watch have a service recently?
Reading about the pushers, you might need one??
Do you also have a picture showing the movement?

 

[Emptyship]

hansaboy

Nice with the movement check, but don't thank me, thank the author of the website:
@eugeneandresson
But you must have looked here?
https://speedmaster101.com/145-022_update/

Did the watch have a service recently?
Reading about the pushers, you might need one??
Do you also have a picture showing the movement?

the recent service of the watch (according to the seller) is in 2020
the picture of the movement is taken

 

[Poppyboy]

Very nice. Enjoy.

 

[ibis888]

Congrats, nice honest looking example!

 

[SOG53]

Nice watch. Can you clarify the movement serial number it is blurry on photo. Thx

 

[Winston_Smith]

Good one, congrats!

 

[Emptyship]

SOG53

Nice watch. Can you clarify the movement serial number it is blurry on photo. Thx

The serial number starts with 3099....
I note the full number when i open the case and check the caliber but I wonder if it is necessary to make the full number public.(is it safe or good to the community? i just come here so i am careful)
If need more clear pic of it I will have to open it again.

 

[SOG53]

No not necessary that is sufficient for my question. This reference had DON bezel up to serial numbers 30,588xxx at which point they started with the 220 error bezel in fall of 1970. These had 220 printed instead of 200. See attached photo.
The error was noticed and they were only put on watches for few months up to observed SNs 31,008xxx. After which they switched to the B2 bezel which is on your watch. I don’t know if there is consensus regarding earliest serial numbers of these B2 bezels I suppose that there was some overlap with error bezel SNs. Your SN from Nov 1970 seems consistent with early B2 bezel being original to watch, but could also be in the range for 220 bezel with later swap to B2. But bezel looks consistent with condition of rest of watch. So I would suspect most likely original bezel at early range for SN. Really nice example!

 

[Emptyship]

SOG53

No not necessary that is sufficient for my question. This reference had DON bezel up to serial numbers 30,588xxx at which point they started with the 220 error bezel in fall of 1970. These had 220 printed instead of 200. See attached photo.
The error was noticed and they were only put on watches for few months up to observed SNs 31,008xxx. After which they switched to the B2 bezel which is on your watch. I don’t know if there is consensus regarding earliest serial numbers of these B2 bezels I suppose that there was some overlap with error bezel SNs. Your SN from Nov 1970 seems consistent with early B2 bezel being original to watch, but could also be in the range for 220 bezel with later swap to B2. But bezel looks consistent with condition of rest of watch. So I would suspect most likely original bezel at early range for SN. Really nice example!

I have searched for some examples on dealers' websites like the WatchFid (https://www.watchfid.com/).
I find some examples about the 220 bezel, and their serial numbers are: 30.591.xxx, 30.992.xxx, 31.000.xxx
Most of the examples after that 31.000.xxx seem to be with the B2 bezel (DN90, narrow c and correct 200).
However, in those examples that the serial number is between 30.591.xxx and 31.000.xxx,
I also find examples that are the 145.022-69 Straight Writing, produced in 1970 (might be September), with the correct B2 bezel , DN90 and correct 200 instead of 220.
So, if their bezels weren't changed by somebody else, might prove that there was exactly some overlap with error 220 bezels, during the second half of the 1970. Some bugs have been fixed by Omega, and the others were not.

Here are some examples I found:
220:
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-220-bezel/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-professional-st-145-022-69/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-220-bezel-2/
B2:
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-straight-writing-tropical/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-straight-writing-3/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-apollo-xi-1969-tropical/

 

[Ron_W]

Nice watch and bracelet ! Congrats.

 

[Marine Boy]

Emptyship

I have searched for some examples on dealers' websites like the WatchFid (https://www.watchfid.com/).
I find some examples about the 220 bezel, and their serial numbers are: 30.591.xxx, 30.992.xxx, 31.000.xxx
Most of the examples after that 31.000.xxx seem to be with the B2 bezel (DN90, narrow c and correct 200).
However, in those examples that the serial number is between 30.591.xxx and 31.000.xxx,
I also find examples that are the 145.022-69 Straight Writing, produced in 1970 (might be September), with the correct B2 bezel , DN90 and correct 200 instead of 220.
So, if their bezels weren't changed by somebody else, might prove that there was exactly some overlap with error 220 bezels, during the second half of the 1970. Some bugs have been fixed by Omega, and the others were not.

Here are some examples I found:
220:
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-220-bezel/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-professional-st-145-022-69/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-220-bezel-2/
B2:
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-straight-writing-tropical/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-straight-writing-3/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-apollo-xi-1969-tropical/

Emptyship

I have searched for some examples on dealers' websites like the WatchFid (https://www.watchfid.com/).
I find some examples about the 220 bezel, and their serial numbers are: 30.591.xxx, 30.992.xxx, 31.000.xxx
Most of the examples after that 31.000.xxx seem to be with the B2 bezel (DN90, narrow c and correct 200).
However, in those examples that the serial number is between 30.591.xxx and 31.000.xxx,
I also find examples that are the 145.022-69 Straight Writing, produced in 1970 (might be September), with the correct B2 bezel , DN90 and correct 200 instead of 220.
So, if their bezels weren't changed by somebody else, might prove that there was exactly some overlap with error 220 bezels, during the second half of the 1970. Some bugs have been fixed by Omega, and the others were not.

Here are some examples I found:
220:
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-220-bezel/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-professional-st-145-022-69/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-220-bezel-2/
B2:
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-straight-writing-tropical/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-straight-writing-3/
https://www.watchfid.com/watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022-69-apollo-xi-1969-tropical/

 

[Marine Boy]

Hi there. My Speedy is a 145.022 71, extract dated to December 10th 1970 with B2 bezel and DN90. Serial No is 310007——.

 

[lawler]

What a great find - congratulations!

This is the next one on my list…