My Early Seamaster 120 Divers. What to look for and what to avoid.

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165.027:
I hope you are going to post a wrist shot of a 166.027 next ;-)
 
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I hope you are going to post a wrist shot of a 166.027 next ;-)
Coming up! Two of them! I had a 120 period...
 
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Cool, you've nearly got as many as Gemini4.
What do you mean by 'had', are you over it now and moved onto something else?
 
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Cool, you've nearly got as many as Gemini4.
What do you mean by 'had', are you over it now and moved onto something else?
Yep. I've spend a year collecting the four and than I had a problem. What next? So I bought another 165.027...😀
 
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Which model is your favourite out of the four?
 
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Which model is your favourite out of the four?
For me the 136.027. It's also the hardest of the four to source.
 
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For me the 136.027. It's also the hardest of the four to source.
And there is a 19 jewel 120 made for the US which I dont have. That one is quite rare as well.
 
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For me the 136.027. It's also the hardest of the four to source.

Yes, your example of that one is very nice.
Are they all keepers or are you considering letting some go?
 
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And there is a 19 jewel 120 made for the US which I dont have. That one is quite rare as well.
Also there are some different coloured variants in burgundy, green and blue
 
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Also there are some different coloured variants in burgundy, green and blue
Yes. That's true. There are different variants of the bezel. But I'm done with the 120. And yes, I'm letting the last one go. Maybe also the first 166.027.
 
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Yes. That's true. There are different variants of the bezel. But I'm done with the 120. And yes, I'm letting the last one go. Maybe also the first 166.027.
But now I'm going into the minefield of the constellation... terr
 
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But now I'm going into the minefield of the constellation... terr
By the way, I would like to thank Gemini4 for the info. It was essential for me before buying my 120's. I forgot to say this yesterday. Again, great help!!
 
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In the 1960's, with the success of the of the Seamaster 300, 3rd generation divers, the 165.024 and 166.024, Omega began their series of "baby" divers, the SM120s. Cheaper, Smaller and lighter, 37mm as opposed to the 41mm SM300, the SM120s were initially produced in 4 references. Unlike the SM300 which were only automatic, manual movements were offered as well. 31mm ladies sizes too, (I don't have any of these but be careful as some sellers neglect to mention they are selling the tiny size!!)


THE FOUR REFERENCES:
135.027 Manual Movement, No Date, Caliber 601, 611
136.027 Manual Movement, with Date, Caliber 613
165.027 Auto Movement, No Date, Caliber 552
166.027 Auto Movement, with Date, Cailber 565

Below are pics of my SM120's. Most I think are fairly nice EXCEPT THE LAST EXAMPLE WHICH IS A BOGUS KNOCKOFF AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED!

I hope this is informative and corrections and comments are always welcome.

Ref 135.027
All 4 references appear to share the same case, 5.5mm crown, hands and matte bezel. The caseback Seahorse engraving appears to be the same on all 4 references as well.


Casebacks on the 135.027 and 136.027 are flat. Seahorse is lightly engraved as shown.


All original legitimate cases have notches at the 3 and the 9. This notch may be missing on bogus examples.


136.027



165.027 For me, the hardest of the 4 to source. Dial now includes "Automatic". Note the TT location on the dial is slightly different from the 135s


Caseback is now domed to make room for the movement rotor.


166.027s



THIS IS THE BOGUS 166.027!! It's plentiful, it's cheap. This was the first SM120 I bought. My mistake cost $500 before I realized there was a difference. Other than a Caliber 565 movement taken from another Omega, it's all bad
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Glossy bezel, wrong 4, different bezel font. Hands too short, Dial fonts and layout (Automatic is compressed). Black date on white background from the borrowed movement.


Caseback seamonster is incorrect. Engraving is too deep. Crown too small.



No case notch at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock.

Avoid confusion with another Seamaster 120 diver - ref.166.073 Cal.565 (I am joking !)

 
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looks like RESTORED alright ... but i do not see by WHOM ... was it restored by the owner or watch smith ... or was it restored by OMEGA ?

it's a brand new fake and the faker signed the case back, good sense of humor
 
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also managed to secure proper 19mm end link for my vintage Omega BOR bracelet ... parts # 026 ST 517 ...

Do you have a proof that 1036 bracelet was fitted to that watch?

I know that 1067/532 was the first, and then 1069/524, 1098/547 and 1172/570 but never heard about any BOR 1036/517