My Early Seamaster 120 Divers. What to look for and what to avoid.

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Unless I'm following the wrong link it doesn't look like a relume to me.


I'd bet heavy on re-lume 😀

My opinion is it makes the watch worth the bezel + movement + case - so like $1000 maybe
 
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Hah well if you did end up getting it and are thinking of parting it out, id take the bezel off your hands 😀
 
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I'd bet heavy on re-lume 😀

My opinion is it makes the watch worth the bezel + movement + case - so like $1000 maybe

Perhaps were talking about different watches. I’m referring to the one linked in your post.

If you’re referring to the watch linked by @who, that link isn’t working for me
 
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@Davidt: the watch in the post was the one in the link. I am not sure, how could you identify a re-lume? In my oppinion, it looks good but I just started to learn about this watch.

@wcm82: unfortunately I was too slow, already sold 🙁 Its quite hard to get a SM120..
 
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A quick warning about a recent auction in Japan

The seller bepqc87068 is a (soft) scammer, as in, he mixes authentic stuff with non-authentic stuff and hides extreme flaws and so on - the near 100% good feedback is because proxy services always leave a good review immediately

Stay away from this auction: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u433370168

Even if it looked authentic, I'd say stay away 100% - but from the photos, I think the case is forged:

 
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Hello everyone,
I’ve been reading the discussion for the last 3 days, plenty of information-very useful, while thinking about these 120s:
If you have a few minutes to spare could you please tell me honestly what you think about these 5 watches (go/no go/maybe)? (not many available pieces these days in Europe) Much appreciated!

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/seamaster-120-diver-automatic--id17791971.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omega-seamaster-120-vintage-37mm-ref-16500027--id15819040.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/seamaster-120-165027-automatic-no-date-serviced--id17837892.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omega-seamaster-120--id18179442.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omeg...matic-cal-552-stainless-steel--id18748203.htm
 
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Hello everyone,
I’ve been reading the discussion for the last 3 days, plenty of information-very useful, while thinking about these 120s:
If you have a few minutes to spare could you please tell me honestly what you think about these 5 watches (go/no go/maybe)? (not many available pieces these days in Europe) Much appreciated!

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/seamaster-120-diver-automatic--id17791971.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omega-seamaster-120-vintage-37mm-ref-16500027--id15819040.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/seamaster-120-165027-automatic-no-date-serviced--id17837892.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omega-seamaster-120--id18179442.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omeg...matic-cal-552-stainless-steel--id18748203.htm
It would be a surprise if a member with knowledge would make a effort to answer your question. You should post pictures of the watches and all the relevant info. And then your own thoughts about the watch. Maybe start a seperate thread.
 
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It would be a surprise if a member with knowledge would make a effort to answer your question. You should post pictures of the watches and all the relevant info. And then your own thoughts about the watch. Maybe start a seperate thread.

Thank you, appreciate the advice.

Movement number and ref. on the inner side of the case back match (165.027 / caliber 552). Watch has been serviced.
Lume on the dial seems faded to a yellowish color, not reapplied, looks original to me, in a very good condition.
Hands are ok, as well. The bezel looks also original including the pearl in the middle, but heavily damaged. Bezel does not rotate. Plexi is not original. The case looks really clean, the case back too with the seahorse logo, which look original.
In overall, this watch looks too clean for a 60 year old watch. What do you think? I'm waiting for photos to check the notch on the sides.

And I have this 2nd option, below. Movement number and ref. on the inner side of the case back match (166.027 / caliber 565). The case, case back, inner side of case back, and movement is original based on the photos I saw. Lume dot on the bezel is reapplied, not too nice. Bezel looks original and is a relatively good condition. Lume on the dial and hands are faded, dirty-ish, but perhaps considering the age of the watch it's ok. Colors on the dial and hands match. However, the "Omega automatic" and the "Seamaster 120" text looks too brigh/white on the dial compared to the aged lume on the dial, perhaps reapplied, a bit off I would say. May I have your opinion please about the dial?
Thank you !

 
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Both dials, bezels and hands look good to me. I'm wondering what happened to the pip lume on the first one. I'm on my phone so pictures are a bit small. Anyway, it comes down to price and the rest of the pictures (movement, case, caseback).
 
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They might be able to laser weld the bezel on the watch with the black strap, but I would look into that before you purchase if the damage at 6 bothers you.

I can tell you from experience there is next to a zero chance of finding a replacement Bezel. Even if you do - the last one I saw in November on ebay sold for $1,150 USD in like an hour.

You can get a replacement original crystal with the omega logo in the middle, but I am not seeing anything really bad on either example.

The second watch, the pip at 12 is wrong, they should look like the first example.

The case on the first one seems really polished - I don't think they're supposed to be that shiny.
 
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Well I guess our new benchmark is now $600 😀
 
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Hi,
Any thoughts on this one? In my opinion, the bezel is fake, the font on the dial looks grey and not white. The A on the back also looks wrong. Completely fake?
 
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Fake

Btw I got the last 3 fakes out of chrono24 yesteday...


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Hi,
Any thoughts on this one? In my opinion, the bezel is fake, the font on the dial looks grey and not white. The A on the back also looks wrong. Completely fake?
 
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Hello everyone, new to the forum. I found this thread so informative I decided to join. I have one for y’all. From what I’ve can see it all looks right, dial print is not quite white but also not grey… case bezel, dial and hands look right to me… thoughts? And thanks to op and everyone who has contributed to this informative thread.