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My Early Seamaster 120 Divers. What to look for and what to avoid.

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That 120 has got to be one of the cleanest I have seen- which raises an eyebrow for me- but always raise an eyebrow with these watches as there are known fakes. I do see a touch of discoloration at the edges of some of the lume which would be in keeping with a little moisture at one point- which is a good thing as it speaks to an original dial. The bezel has me wondering- it’s flawless, no wear at all- and is that finish correct (I thought they were more satin finish and not textured like this one)? I rarely see them this clean so it has me wondering.
Through my research I've found bezels on authentic watches that have that same texture, and I've seen ones which are more satin like you mentioned. The font seemed to be accurate, the pip, the teeth, and the side profile all look genuine to me.
 
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Through my research I've found bezels on authentic watches that have that same texture, and I've seen ones which are more satin like you mentioned. The font seemed to be accurate, the pip, the teeth, and the side profile all look genuine to me.
I agree, it looks excellent- would be worth a closer look at the bracelet to assess total value. Is this an auction or someone you have met with?
 
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M Malco
Hey everyone,

I found one but I never see lume like that..

1964 Omega seamaster 120 date :


What do you think ?
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Bad redial.
 
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M Malco
Hey everyone,

I found one but I never see lume like that..

1964 Omega seamaster 120 date :


What do you think ?
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I think I never want to see one like again. 🤮
 
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Yes, it is not a Seamaster 120 dial, it's from another watch and reprinted (incorrectly) to look like a Seamaster 120 dial.
The hands are also completely incorrect.
 
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Yes, it is not a Seamaster 120 dial, it's from another watch and reprinted (incorrectly) to look like a Seamaster 120 dial.
The hands are also completely incorrect.

OMG

Thanks a lot

It’s impossible to find an omega seamaster 120..
 
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OMG

Thanks a lot

It’s impossible to find an omega seamaster 120..
Not impossible, but actually really hard. They are out there but you really have to do your homework- hence good on you for being part of this thread...much to learn here.

Once you spend some time learning about Omega’s you learn that they were, if anything, very consistent in their designs and layouts. Sure there were a few oddities here and there (particularly in the 50’s), but for the most part- fonts, lume style and color, indices, bezels, script placement and line weight, case and crown shapes- are all very consistent. Learn your hunted model well, look at as many pics as possible of known correct examples (ones from members here are usually a safe bet), and become educated enough to be able to spot the details that send up red flags. Eventually you won’t even linger in a listing that looks off- you’ll know it’s wrong and keep looking.
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Thanks for the help guys and @JwRosenthal ^^ gorgeous. The example I'm looking at is from a private sale and it appears to be the same watch sold by Jack Wong, which was discussed on page 13 of this very thread.
 
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I originally posted the Jack Wong watch, I found it on Rolex forums. I actually contacted Jack and he gave me the low down on the watch. With that being said, I still passed, I could not get over the prestige bezel condition, you would really need to see it in person to make accurate judgement on its authenticity.
 
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@Watchout312 - Thanks. I've read all your posts here and on WUS regarding the watch.

yes, I was looking for a while before I found a good one. There out there, just be patient and post what you find to this thread, you will get honest advice and avoid costly mistakes.

here is mine.
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Ok
Back looked kind of cartoonish... I thought the mane of the hippocampus needed more stripes...
 
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The case back look off because of that brown sludge that is harassing it.

The seconds hand is a replacement. Other than that, it look like a ok example.
 
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+ never seen any fake 136.027 Manual + Date
+ never seen any fake with correct bracelet ans endlinks

=> genuine and rare manual date version
 
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