Yes, no problem with white date background

 

Ok thank you. So potentially just the sweeping hand. I will go check it out again and look for the notches and ask to see the movement.

 

SCAMMED
Great and informative Article above! Sadly though, reading it made me realise that a few months ago I bought (from Ron of Timely Classics in Dallas Texas) a blatant FAKE 120. I have written to him about this but been flatly ignored. Oh well my fault I guess for not doing my homework ... there goes +-USD1695 down the drain - he even placed a genuine Omega movement and crystal in and on the fake case and dial - how very "clever" of him! I have reported him to NAWCC for what it is worth ... "sigh" you live and you learn ...

 

really very sorry to hear that ....

 

Amazing, mind spinning thread! Very valuable! Yay OF!

 

Anyone got any views on this one? Seems to be the slightly rarer 166.027 with lumed second hand.

My concern is that the lume on the dial shows signs of deterioration - but the bezel (apart from lume pip) looks in pretty good condition - that's a bit of a red flag for me (should it be?). The engraving on the case back has also been completely polished away as well. Though the engraving on these was pretty shallow in the first place. Crown seems fine and the case has the 3 & 9 notches. I understand black numerals on a white wheel is ok for this ref.

I thought I had these 120s pretty sussed out but something just seems odd with this one. Any advice would be appreciated.
Many thanks

 

I think it's correct and largely original but the lume would put me off.

I've got one of these on its way to STS at the minute for a full refurb. I think they're lovely watches but I'd wait for better lume.

 

second sweep hand is not appropriate for watch ........dial is in bad shape ... but also legit .... bezel seems appropriate and good condition case back is polished ..... dials do pop up now and then ...

 

Thanks for the replies. I agree the lume isn't very attractive but I think the dial looks ok apart from that.

It was my understanding that there were some 120s released with a second hand that had lume https://omegaforums.net/threads/a-seamaster-120-166-027-with-a-very-strange-second-hand.49425/ as shown here with an original owner example and picture from A Journey Through Time.

So is the general view that the bezel is legit?

 

Bezel is LEGIT ....

 

as for the Second sweep hand .... I am not sure ... based on the link u shared ... i can only go by these VINTAGE ADVERTS .....where there other 120's with the second sweep hand mounted on the 120 in ur photos ... seems there are .... wether these were the correct second sweep hands that came with the 120's originally, I would go by the advert photos below ... now are these hands Omega ... probably .... could be replacements attached to some 120's when they were sent in for a service ...... perhaps the original second sweep hand was unavailable at the time some 120's were sent in, and these were used as a substitute .... and that is why u see some pieces with these second sweep hands .... ???? ... remember back in the day a watch maker was able to order parts from Omega directly for a watch

 

1967 Omega 120

 

I've seen photos of a few Seamaster 120s with an orange seconds hand. Can anyone confirm whether these are correct or not? At first I dismissed it as an incorrect replacement but I've seen photos of at least three with this seconds hand.

 

these red second sweep hands were used on CHRONOSTOP and GENEVE models of the same era .... they are Omega hands ... BUT NOT ... WERE NOT ... used originally on this model 120 ...

 

this is the CORRECT second sweep hand

 

Hi guys, very nice thread, tnx for info.

P.S. now I will have to get one

What is realistic price for 165.027 in a good condition? Head only

 

Just back after a couple of months at STS. It's no show stopper as it's clearly been used. However, all the lume is original, it's keeping great time and it even passed its pressure test. The matte dial and bezel look brilliant in the sun!

 

1967 Omega 120
Omega BOR bracelet ref# 12
19mm endlnks ref# 026ST517

 

Here is my SM120

Originally came on a 1067 bracelet dated 2/67, swapped for a tropic strap for now. I purchased with the intention of keeping the bracelet and flipping the watch but I enjoy it to much to let it go. Dial is stunning in natural light even though it is missing some lume on the dial. Bezel no longer turns, no big deal to me.

Has the "unique" lumed second hand w/ lume color matching the dial, as seen under UV.

 

Here is my SM120 Ultraman