movement holders with support for jewels question

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I am currently looking into picking up a movement holder for the 7750 series movements and there are a lot of options at a lot of price points.

My question is with regards to the holders that have supports for jewels optional.

I see a lot of advice saying to make sure to support the jewel for the seconds pinion/wheel while pressing on hands, however I have almost always found that said jewels are behind the automatic works when its time to press on the hands.

With that in mind, am I installing the automatic module too early? should I have left the automatic module off and installed the dial and hands, and then cased the movement before installing the automatic module?

Have I completely missed the point?

An additional question, would I be able to get away with just using the bergeon 4040 movement holder for the time being? or if I wish to tackle a 7750 getting at least the basic plastic with some pushers 7750 specific holder is a mminimum?
 
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Unless the automatic winding system is part of the movement in some way (like on a 7750) you don't install it typically until the watch is in the case (front loaders excepted of course).

The movement holders are not just for installing hands - they can be a great help in assembling the dial side of the movement, or in the case of the 7750, for assembling and testing parts of the chronograph as you assemble.

I'm sure someone has assembled a 7750 just using the 4040, but it will be a whole heck of a lot easier to do this in a proper movement holder. I have a couple for the 7750, but the one I would recommend is the Horia one that is reversable - one side for the dial side, one side for the wheel train side.

Okay just checked and it's pretty pricey...

Movement Holder for Valjoux 7750, Horia (jewelerssupplies.com)
 
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ah, so in order to test the chronograph operation, you might put on some hands before the dial, so those supports would come into play?

I have found chinese clones of the horia holder, though they are still decently expensive, so not sure if i will pull the trigger on one, was thinking perhaps its still better to get one of the cheaper ones first and then save for the horia.
 
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ah, so in order to test the chronograph operation, you might put on some hands before the dial, so those supports would come into play?

I have found chinese clones of the horia holder, though they are still decently expensive, so not sure if i will pull the trigger on one, was thinking perhaps its still better to get one of the cheaper ones first and then save for the horia.

The supports aren't related to the dial being on or not, as they would support the jewels if the dial is installed or not. But as you assemble a chronograph, you should be checking the various functions as you assemble them - these holders come with pushers to enable you to activate all that on the movement.
 
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I have one of the cheap(ish) chinese ones. It's ok to be honest but not as good a quality as the much more expensive swiss models. But as a hobbyist it's fine for me.

By the way, has anyone seen a movement holder for a 7733? Or a Landeron 248? (Which would maybe fit a L48 too but I'd need to check). I've done just a couple of these and without a correct movement holder it's much more fiddly. I've done some looking but best I found was an old thread somewhere with a long dead link to someone who 3D printed a 7733 holder.