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watchyouwant
·I would not touch it because of the dial. Never buy a watch , you have to explain all the time.... And, no, I can not elaborate further because of the pictures.
Meister constellation, redial? (Took a gamble and bought the watch)
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Hipp
·Well everyone, after a few drinks on Christmas I ended up bidding and winning the watch ($700 USD). Looking at it in person I don't believe its a redial. I do believe the bracelet is fake though, the end links have no markings and I can't quite make out the number on the clasp x220? Here are some pictures.
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dude88
·nice. watch looks better than the listing.
have u checked the movement?
have u checked the movement?
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoI see nothing wrong with the bracelet. Some end-links aren’t numbered.
Looks nice for the price paid.
Looks nice for the price paid.
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smorrisonmd
·I'd say you did very well, regardless of the bracelet. And I think it is legit.
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Nupero
·Looks way better than in the original pics, congrats!
Btw, I used to gamble at the casino, but now I just buy watches from sellers who suffer from macular degeneration.
Btw, I used to gamble at the casino, but now I just buy watches from sellers who suffer from macular degeneration.
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MtV
·I see nothing wrong with the bracelet. Some end-links aren’t numbered.
Looks nice for the price paid.
+1 - the combination of an 8220 with unnumbered endlinks is a bit odd, they’re usually found on earlier incarnations (1502s or, prior to those, the sliding clasp BoRs without a number), but they still seem correct and so does the bracelet. Nice catch.
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lindo
·Despite the naysayers you trusted your judgement - and now have a very nice example of that model, at a very reasonable price. Well done.
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seekingseaquest
·+1 - the combination of an 8220 with unnumbered endlinks is a bit odd, they’re usually found on earlier incarnations (1502s or, prior to those, the sliding clasp BoRs without a number), but they still seem correct and so does the bracelet. Nice catch.
That said, who cares.. the endlinks look fine on the watch and seem to fit well to me.
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Kraal90
·Well that looks like a nice catch! Fingers crossed movement is in good shape as well. Nice little Christmas present for yourself.
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Hipp
·I see nothing wrong with the bracelet. Some end-links aren’t numbered.
Looks nice for the price paid.
In addition to the unnumbered end-links, the clasp has a fixed bar which I haven't seen on other BoR bracelets. This is what led me to believe it may be a counterfeit. Thoughts @MtV, @seekingseaquest?
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seekingseaquest
·In addition to the unnumbered end-links, the clasp has a fixed bar which I haven't seen on other BoR bracelets. This is what led me to believe it may be a counterfeit. Thoughts @MtV, @seekingseaquest?
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janice&fred
·Such a deal. Mazel Tov!
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nicks
·Nice to see such a great catch among all the sad stories about frankens, grandfathers, redials, etc etc etc.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
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Hipp
·nice. watch looks better than the listing.
have u checked the movement?
So finally took the watch to my watchmaker, the case back was super tight, I thought we would never get it open. I'm not to sure what to look for when looking at movements but it looks ok to me. The case back confirms its a 14393 from 1961.
Overall I'm very pleased with the watch, I'm really digging the patinated champaign colour of the dial. The omega logo, constellation star and date window all have a heavy tarnish (originally I thought it might be rust) which I think compliments the dial.
Also, I want to thank everyone who posts on Omega Forums, the free following of knowledge and willingness to assist people like myself has allowed me to acquire two modest pieces without breaking the bank and made the journey and learning very enjoyable. (last pic is of my newly serviced and acquired Seamaster 166.010)
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Olhenry56
·Geez, strong start! My first Omega purchases last year were a shit show. I'm impressed 👍
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lindo
·One of my first Constellations was this one - almost identical to yours but a 1959 model. And I have to say that I was pleased with its sharp edges (although lightly polished) until I saw how original your watch's edges were. You did very well, especially at that price.
If you keep to this standard you will build an enviable collection - good hunting.
If you keep to this standard you will build an enviable collection - good hunting.
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Hipp
·One of my first Constellations was this one - almost identical to yours but a 1959 model. And I have to say that I was pleased with its sharp edges (although lightly polished) until I saw how original your watch's edges were. You did very well, especially at that price.
If you keep to this standard you will build an enviable collection - good hunting.
Thank you for the kind words @lindo, your 14393 looks stunning. I don't know if its the lyre lugs but the 14393 is so much more comfortable on the wrist than the seamaster. Its sort of made me weary going after a dog leg constellation.
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lindo
·We will probably both be canned by certain OF members for saying this, but I agree with you. I do not like the dog legs as much - but a hell of a lot of collectors regard them as the ultimate.
If you want a suggested collecting path from here, a suggestion is to look for a nice Constellation in 18k gold, like this 1970 cased in the UK for that market. It is just under 36mm width and looks great on the wrist. The best bit is that UK cased gold Omegas (fully Omega stamped, with British gold hallmarks) can be found a little cheaper than the Swiss cased ones. Silly really, as the Swiss cases were not made by Omega either, but outsourced to local gold manufacturers.
If you want a suggested collecting path from here, a suggestion is to look for a nice Constellation in 18k gold, like this 1970 cased in the UK for that market. It is just under 36mm width and looks great on the wrist. The best bit is that UK cased gold Omegas (fully Omega stamped, with British gold hallmarks) can be found a little cheaper than the Swiss cased ones. Silly really, as the Swiss cases were not made by Omega either, but outsourced to local gold manufacturers.
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