Megan's Show & Tell. A Very Rare 16610

Foo2rama

Every seen the price of an 861 movement Speedmaster with an applied metal logo from 68? Or a no NASA 145.022-71? Now add Submariner fetishism.

Seiji

Odd yes, but does anyone really pursuit such a watch? It's not like a square crown guard case or bakelite bezel.

Seiji

I may come across as an ass, but the Omegas I understand because they look different and have different dials. I'm ignorant about watch collecting, but do transitional models get any permiums? I am not aware of any 16800, 16660, etc. getting a signif lift.
Dials, case variants, bezels, paperwork&boxes add lift, not much for transitional movements. GMT Cal 1066 vs 1035? 1016 cal 1560 vs 1570 Hacking vs non-hacking? 1040 vs 1040B?

I was personally shown a watch which this happened to the last few metal bezel GMT Masters as well, which basically says that the upgrade to parachrome spring was not to do with ceramic bezels.

Foo2rama

Well the 145.022-71 No NASA is only different on the caseback having no inscription. The -68 transitional has a silver logo instead of printed.

As noted Rolex guys fetishize any little difference on the Sub. As for this example I could care less, but it's a watch that combines 2 references one of only a few watches inside one large reference. So who knows if in the end it will be higher value.

watch3s

The Z serials is generally where the changes were made for stuff like the GMTs/explorer 2s. that is where some wonder if early Z serials have the 3185 vs 3186 for the gmts. There is no hard and fast rule about when the change exactly took place because there were some growing pains when the modification was introduced, so there have been stories where people bought in their 3185 for a service and they added in the modification. Generally it has been found that the later Z serials and on have the 3186 movement.

Foo2rama

I hate the engraved rehaut.

Can I get an Amen?

Foo2rama

I hate the engraved rehaut.

Can I get an Amen?

Foo2rama

May I ask why? To me thats like putting a Lamborghini sticker across the windshield of a Countach, its obvious what the watch/car is no need to scream it louder. It was an anti-counterfitting measure that Rolex put in that to most people massively detracts from the watch. There is no reason to have rolex printed repeatedly all around that area.