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Lume stabilized - where to do it in France?

befobe
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Hi OF,
Worried about tritium index (1966) of a speed, wondering if among french OF members, someone would know a good watchmaker to do that.
And eventually, if someone can post here what is exactly "lume stabilizing"... What product, what process?...
Thanks for your infos!
Have a good evening.
B.
 
gbesq
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Basically all that is involved is applying a binder to the back of the hands. @Archer or some of our other watchmaker members can explain it in more detail, but my understanding is that the binder is the same solution that is mixed with lume powder to form the luminous compound.
 
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Fallout Boy Fallout Boy
Send it to Germany, ask before. He is the specialist!

https://www.uhrenkunde.de/
I'm not sure that it needs to go to a specialist unless reluming is required. Stabilizing existing lume that is in good condition just to make sure that it stays that way is something that most experienced watchmakers can do.
 
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OP are you talking about dial or hand lume?

Hand lume I understand is relatively straightforward. I’ve had it done by several watchmakers without issue. Dial lume on the other hand is a different matter as it tends to leave a glossy halo around the hour markers. I’m not sure it can be done.
 
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Davidt Davidt
OP are you talking about dial or hand lume?

Hand lume I understand is relatively straightforward. I’ve had it done by several watchmakers without issue. Dial lume on the other hand is a different matter as it tends to leave a glossy halo around the hour markers. I’m not sure it can be done.
Agreed. If it’s the dial markers, that’s a job for a reluming specialist.
 
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Thanks a lot for your quick answers.
To precise:
I'm speaking of index and hands of a 105012.
 
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Dial lume on the other hand is a different matter as it tends to leave a glossy halo around the hour markers
That's exactly my fear...
 
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Is the dial lume flaking off or is this a proactive measure?
If the lume is ok I’d leave it. If some has come off I’d ask my watchmaker to gently remove and loose bits and leave the rest original. If huge amounts come off, say less than 30% remains you could consider reluming.

I’m happy to be told I’m wrong but I can’t see trying to stabilise dial lume being invisible.
 
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Davidt Davidt
Is the dial lume flaking off

I’m happy to be told I’m wrong but I can’t see trying to stabilise dial lume being invisible.

The mentioned specialist (Robin) from UHRENKUNDE is stabilising th lume by laquering (?) the back side of the hands.

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befobe
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Oh great to learn that it is done by the backside for the hands. Of course that is another story for the dial...
My lume is ok now, so as said by @Davidt , it is a preventiv measure.

I'm wondering if the index will be "modified". Until now, they are perfect. So it is scary... If there is a tiny modification, I will see that... I will focus on that... I can't bear that...
An OF member has an example of index stab "before&after"?
 
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The mentioned specialist (Robin) from UHRENKUNDE is stabilising th lume by laquering (?) the back side of the hands.

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Not sure you’re quoting me. I’ve already said stabilising hands is straightforward. Is dial lume stabilisation that’s a different story.
 
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Not sure you’re quoting me. I’ve already said stabilising hands is straightforward. Is dial lume stabilisation that’s a different story.
David, I am - from my 1st post - not talking about DIAL.
 
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David, I am - from my 1st post - not talking about DIAL.

I was asking the OP whether he was talking about the hands or dial and he’s confirmed it’s hands and dial.

I still don’t know why you’re quoting me.
 
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@befobe Show us "the problem"
Until now, no PB 😁

It is a preventiv question...
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I still cannot believe that a substance "on" the index does not change the aspect of these index....
 
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he’s confirmed it’s hands and dial.

I still don’t know why you’re quoting me.

Sorry, I didn t´realize this....😀
 
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befobe befobe
I still cannot believe that a substance "on" the index does not change the aspect of these index....

That's correct. As everyone has said, stabilizing the lume plots on the dial risks changing the look of the lume and even the area around the lume. I don't recommend it.

I think there may be a language barrier in this thread.
 
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