Longines Majetek thread...

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By the way, are you basing the judgementbof fake dial based on missing antimagnetic? Or subdial fonts? Longines ref 3582.

The dial appears to be genuine civilian model which do not say antimagnitic.
The sub-dial is a dead give away.

Also, would one expect to find an enamel dial with a 15.68Z?
 
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There are indeed many, correct dial variations but the example that I posted is not one of them.
 
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Had never heard of these, but looks a wonderful watch. The discolouration of the dial and numerals work beautifully. Even the 'orange peel' on the dial looks really nice.
 
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I can't tell from those pictures, but I assumed it is a metal dial.
If it was a metal dial, the sub-dial would be sunken.
 
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New Old Stock case with incorrect engraving method.

By the way, are you basing the judgementbof fake dial based on missing antimagnetic? Or subdial fonts? Longines ref 3582.

The dial appears to be genuine civilian model which do not say antimagnitic. The military engraving does not belong on the watch



In the advertisement also, no Antimagnetic.


Very rare civilian porcelain dial (sold for a small premium verses the military version)


A real crime in a way that they took a civilian model and made it military as these don't show up much at all and maybe among the rarest of the watches.
Wow, learn something new everyday on these forums
 
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Here is a picture of my watch, delivered (and confirmed by Longines) in Dec. 1938, movement is a 15.26, engraved no. is 21xx
 
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My dial is porcelain or metal?

And what should I think about the lack of inscription on the backcase?

 
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The dial that if it exists, would be the most interesting to me is an underline at 6 position.
 
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Likely was military use.
I don't really know these but I seem to recall that Stiocour on MWR who researched them extensively got confirmation from Longines that some civilian ones were also delivered.
 
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I don't really know these but I seem to recall that Stiocour on MWR who researched them extensively got confirmation from Longines that some civilian ones were also delivered.
If you mean unmarked case backs, that is my understanding that there were many sent to military.
 
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The dial that if it exists, would be the most interesting to me is an underline at 6 position.
This apparent underline may not be the result of a distinct dial variant but rather just the application of lume in that location.
 
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If you mean unmarked case backs, that is my understanding that there were many sent to military.

You’re right, that was what it was.
 
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To further elaborate...I don't believe Longines marked any casebacks. I never ask Longines, so I don't have anything other than second hand research. I believe the command marked the cases with what we think of as original markings.
Based on what people have written on MWR Longines did mark some of the case backs themselves.
That was part of Stiocour’s research, he also got evidence about unmarked watches which according to the archives were supplied to the Czech military but had no markings.

From Stiocour on MWR:
« The extract of Longines register for my serial number also mentions the majetek engravings, but strangely enough, they are not stamped on my watch!

May be some were shipped before the engravings were made, or they were possibly erased at a later stage, nobody knows. »
http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/show...watch-quot-Tartarugone-quot&highlight=MAjetek
 
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This apparent underline may not be the result of a distinct dial variant but rather just the application of lume in that location.

Thanks!
 
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I confirm what @Syrte wrote about Longines marking the cases with Majetek (at least for the 15.26 series). These are the records that the wonderful people at Longines provided me with for 2 of my 3 Majeteks (both 15.26 movements). I do not know if they marked or have kept the records for the other series (the 3rd that I have is a 15.68 but I did not specifically ask about the markings).

The order number is XXXXX and I confirm the Majetek engraving.

The order number is XXXXX and I confirm there must be no engraving.
 
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Yes - I think you´re right. Thanks for the exploration. Is that red ball made by Longines or later? rgds - h.u.