hi, does this one looks like a redial to you?
Also, the case is gold caped, but the logo puts it before 1951. Do you believe that is possible?

 

Look like a cheap redial.

 

maybe the back of the case is of any help

 

+ 1

 

I would want to see clearer photos of the dial. I do not recall seeing many similar examples (dial or case). Most somewhat similar examples have steel cases and dials with embossed hour markers. I imagine that the movement is a cal. 12.68Z. Can you clarify what you mean about the logo indicating that the watch is from before 1951? Do you have photos of the movement and inside of the case-back? Also, I would be curious to know in which country he watch is for sale. There seemed to be a demand for gold-plated Longines in Spain during the period.

 

Hi, the country for sell is Germany and it is not gold plated, but goldcap with a full gold ring bazel. The dial dont have the wing logo, thats why i say 1951 or prior... and, sadly, I dont have pictures of the movement.

 

And it has 38 mm

 

Right, gold-capped, my mistake. Personally, I would not proceed with the purchase without seeing the movement, inside of the case-back, and a clearer photo of the dial. As I mentioned, this is not an especially common dial or case so it is not easy to compare with known correct examples.

With regard to the absence of a winged-hourglass logo suggesting that the watch is from 1951 or earlier, I think that there are exceptions. Below is a ref. 5411 with serial number 8'242'478 that was invoiced to Wirth on 16 July 1952.

 

Gold-capped cases are uncommon for Longines, but they are out there. Here is one I use to own:



Your watch is probably also a 30L.

I would like better photos, too, but I'm leaning toward yours being original.

 

Thanks for sharing that beautiful example! If the watch in question does contain a cal. 30L, then the absence of a winged-hourglass logo would be surprising, don't you think?

 

P.S. Here is another gold-capped cal. 30L. The case design looks quite similar, including the finishing on the case-back (i.e., polished perimeter and linear brushing in the center). The reference is 7175.

Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/thoughts-on-this-rare-30l.102573/

 

I hadn't realized how ubiquitous the logo was on these 30L's until you mentioned it - but you're right. That's a bad sign. I was comparing the Longines and "Swiss" signatures and the subdial print, which all seem to match (at far as I can tell with these fuzzy photos). Good quality photos would help clear this up.

 

A couple of points.

The watch appears to have mirror-finish indices, and I actually see no reason to believe that it is a redial. And given what appears to be a very well-preserved case, why would a redial have been necessary?

I'd need to see more, and better photos to firm up my opinion, but it looks good to me...

 

Yup, yup and yup!

 

i cant get a movement picture, just this as a proof of the good state of the watch

 

Nothing is jumping out at me as wrong from those photos and my gut feeling is that the watch is ok. But I also wouldn't buy the watch based on those photos unless it was very cheap and I was in a gambling mood.