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Lemania Eberhard Mareoscope caliber 5190 - The wackiest of the 5100 calibers!

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I have just taken possession of an Eberhard Mareoscope. It is a thing of beauty without doubt.
I would like to thank all contributors to this thread for posting much valuable and interesting information about its construction, and the relative integrity of some of the materials used; also for posting some beautiful photos of some lovely watches. You have added greatly to my knowledge and enjoyment of this unusual watch.

But how in the name of God do I set it?
 
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If you mean the pics of my new Eberhard, I can explain that. I haven't taken any.
I assume that it would be helpful if I did, so will make an attempt on the north face of my camera tomorrow. Be warned - my watch photos are legendarily bad, as you can see on my intro post.
 
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The "moon window" is a tide indicator. Moonphase is shown by a moving hand presumably rotating at a speed of 29.5 (?) days per complete turn. The coloured disc indicates the state of tide.
As a person who struggles to set a sundial, I am at a loss to figure out how to set this to give accurate readings, which presumably vary according to location. I assume one obtains moonphase data from some online website; what I don't know is if the moon data mirrors the tide data, and also the mechanical how-do-you-align-everything watch hand manipulation.
 
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I'm unearthing this thread, upon which I just stumbled, to correct a minor inaccuracy in the opening post.

Northernman Northernman
The 5190 was ONLY used by Eberhard in one single model, the Mareoscope.

Maréoscope, like Diascope for the equally rare Lemania calbre 5195, was not the name of a model, but the name of a complication that was in fact used by two Eberhard watches: the Champion Maréoscope and the Grande Croisière Maréoscope. Both these chronographs were available with either a white or a black dial. The Diascope complication was available on the Chrono Master Frecce Tricolori Diascope and the Cheftain Diascope models.

As a ex-owner of a Champion Maréscope which I loved to bits, I look at these pictures with a great deal of nostalgia. So I'm not excluding getting myself another Maréoscope chronograph in some distant future, but I would probably take it in the larger Grande Croisière case, whose size is more suited to my massive wrist.

Anyway, here a few pictures of my departed watch...
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Pascal S Pascal S
I'm unearthing this thread, upon which I just stumbled, to correct a minor inaccuracy in the opening post.



Maréoscope, like Diascope for the equally rare Lemania calbre 5195, was not the name of a model, but the name of a complication that was in fact used by two Eberhard watches: the Champion Maréoscope and the Grande Croisière Maréoscope. Both these chronographs were available with either a white or a black dial. The Diascope complication was available on the Chrono Master Frecce Tricolori Diascope and the Cheftain Diascope models.

As a ex-owner of a Champion Maréscope which I loved to bits, I look at these pictures with a great deal of nostalgia. So I'm not excluding getting myself another Maréoscope chronograph in some distant future, but I would probably take it in the larger Grande Croisière case, whose size is more suited to my massive wrist.

Anyway, here a few pictures of my departed watch...
Thanks Pascal,

Learning something new every day!
Since my OP I have taken some time to study Eberhard, and their use of Lemania movement variants. A very interesting brand, and some really unique variants!

My present list of 5100 derived calibers:

5012 - Base 21600ah, Automatic
5100 - Base 28800 ah, Automatic
5190 - Eberhardt & Co. Maeroscope - Tidal Indication, Automatic, base 5100
5195 - Eberhardt & Co. Diascope - Second timzone @ 3, Automatic, base 5100
5200 - Hand wound 5100
5250 - Hand wound 5012
5270 - (Sinn) Chronsport Chronosail, Regatta timer, base 5200.

Cheers!👍
 
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Northernman Northernman
My present list of 5100 derived calibers:

5012 - Base 21600ah, Automatic
5100 - Base 28800 ah, Automatic
5190 - Eberhardt & Co. Maeroscope - Tidal Indication, Automatic, base 5100
5195 - Eberhardt & Co. Diascope - Second timzone @ 3, Automatic, base 5100
5200 - Hand wound 5100
5250 - Hand wound 5012
5270 - (Sinn) Chronsport Chronosail, Regatta timer, base 5200.

I got to pretty much the same list during my exchanges with the late Chuck Maddox many moons ago.

Since then, we unfortunately can add the decontented ETA C01.211 to the list of Lemania 5100 derived watch calibres. When it was introduced in 2008, it was meant as an economy chronograph movement to be used by Tissot and Swatch. The irony is that Swatch Group officially had killed the calibre 5100 a few years earlier under the false pretext that it was too expensive to make.

During the 2005 Baselworld fair, I had a long chat with Dieter Delecate, Tutima's boss, and he was extremely mad at Swatch for depriving him of the movement powering his flagship Military Chronograph. He had enough left in stock to comply with his firm's commitment to the Bundeswehr for issued watches, but had very few left for anything else. He was convinced that it was a political decision and that the excuse he was given was bogus. Looks like he was right.
 
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Since then, we unfortunately can add the decontented ETA C01.211 to the list of Lemania 5100 derived watch calibres. When it was introduced in 2008, it was meant as an economy chronograph movement to be used by Tissot and Swatch. The irony is that Swatch Group officially had killed the calibre 5100 a few years earlier under the false pretext that it was too expensive to make.
The ETA C01.211 has surely been created using the 5100 base-design, but there is little else that ticks my boxes😀
The lack of the sweep minutes chronograph counter is the main thing for me. If they had kept this design feature it would have been a uniquely useful modern budget chronograph movement.
 
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That why I said "unfortunately".

The ETA C01.211 is a complete abomination to me. ETA took a great movement and emasculated it by removing the features that made it unique and adding a cheap synthetic escapement. While the Lemania 5100 was a triumph of engineering by achieving to offer a legible chronograph movement that performed admirably under duress, its ETA descendent was just meant to be cheap and lost its soul in the process. It's a pity really.
 
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Can I just add that the Diascope also came in Champion guise, as well as Cheftain and Frecce Tricolori.
By far the most legible
 
Pascal S
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Correct, that was an omission of mine.

Incidentally, the Champion is one of the very few Lemania 5100 chronographs which offered a certified chronometer execution (only in its all gold version). One is these rare beasts is currently for sale on Chrono 24 and it's only its engraved caseback which reveals its unique nature alongside more common Champion chronographs.
 
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