Lemania CH27 dial help

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Bing813

·Jul 17, 2023

I’m in the process of restoring this and was questioning if the dial is a redial or just really a rough original. I noticed a service signature from 1963 on the rear of the dial after the start of disassembly and was curious what everyone thinks. I have seen several variations on the base 1000 scale from old chronograph catalogs but think this might not be worth the hassle if it’s not correct. Thanks for the help. -Scott

 

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Mark020

·Jul 17, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

The 5 and 7 which fall over the edge suggests a redial

 

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Bing813

·Jul 17, 2023

That definitely stands out. Thank you

 

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DirtyDozen12

·Jul 17, 2023·Thanks, mystery donor!

I am not well-versed in Lemania chronographs, but this dial looks consistent with other chronograph dials of the period, I think. Below is another example that has hour numerals overlapping with the sub-dials.

Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/lemania-chronograph-ch27-purchase-guidance.120629/#post-1615025

 

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Bing813

·Jul 18, 2023

The more important question is would this be acceptable or should I hold out for a replacement due to the condition of the red outer scale being so poor. This dial is hard to find in decent condition.

 

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DirtyDozen12

·Jul 18, 2023·Thanks, mystery donor!

I think that it will be difficult to find an appropriate replacement dial. If the question is, should you pay for a service to get the watch complete and running, then it depends on how you anticipate using it and whether or not you plan on selling it in the near future. The dial is certainly worn, but since you already own the watch, I would probably consider it acceptable.

 

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Bing813

·Jul 18, 2023

Thanks for the advice. I will be doing the service myself and sourced a far more damaged dial with the rose metal hour markers to possibly modify with translucent paint. Thinking about a clear case back to show off the beautiful movement as well. I fortunately already own a smaller gold version of this movement and got the 35mm this dial belonged to as an incomplete watch. So not really super collectible as it is.

 

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DirtyDozen12

·Jul 18, 2023·Thanks, mystery donor!

Got it. I'd say it is worth servicing then.

Adding this photo for posterity.

Source: https://drouot.com/en/l/16735206-lemania-lemania-约1950年的l

 

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Bing813

·Jul 18, 2023

Maybe I should just keep it original then. It was only missing a few parts for the chronograph but the case and everything else is all there. Thanks for the picture. Not many out there with this style scale

 

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Bing813

·Jul 23, 2023

My dial options now. Would you keep the original or try something with the new more damaged dial with the more prominent numerals in metal? Still thinking if the translucent paint covers the clear coating that the black register numbers will show through and then I can just sand and polish the hour numerals back clean. Opinions are all welcome. It’s a project so I can enjoy wearing it instead of just sitting in a pile of parts -Scott

 

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Bing813

·Jul 23, 2023

Thinking about green or gold tone paint as a possible color choice

 

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sheepdoll

·Jul 23, 2023

I like the dial on the right.

Someday I would love to find a case for my 105. The dial certainly has character. more like an oil stain than a water stain.

Still curious why there is no hour hand?

(should also get it out again and take a better photo.)

 

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Bing813

·Aug 6, 2023

Current state of the dial mod……. It’s transparent sea glass and looks aged but not sure about the handset color. Gold or black? The case is steel. Any advice or opinions welcome.

I still have the original dial but wanted to try my hand at something different…….

 

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Northernman

·Aug 29, 2023·Lemaniac

Bing813

Current state of the dial mod……. It’s transparent sea glass and looks aged but not sure about the handset color. Gold or black? The case is steel. Any advice or opinions welcome.

I still have the original dial but wanted to try my hand at something different…….

Hand-set should normally match the dial markers, so gilt hands is my best advice.
Looking at some of my watches/catalogs I would say the style of the markers (straight) would dictate "dagger style"

or perhaps dauphine-style hands.

As the dial has not got lume-plots, non-lumed hands would be "correct".

Cheers!
😉

 

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Syrte

·Aug 29, 2023

Late to the thread I’m afraid, and I know little about Lemania, but to me the initial dial in the OP is an obvious original. I won’t say why publicly because I do not want to tip off the now very talented con artists who try to sell off excellently redone dials as originals.

 

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sheepdoll

·Aug 30, 2023

Update: As noted in other threads my movement is no longer naked.

I think it looks pretty good in the Tissot case. I like the contrast of the white dial. It matches the worn aged pulsations bezel nicely. Since I need an hour hand and the existing hands are slightly long for the inside scale. I started the long background search for a new handset. I might be able to get away with some shorter slab hands. There is no lume.

One of the pushers is broken as well. And there are always those pesky case clamps to deal with.

 

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Bing813

·Sep 8, 2023

Anyone know where to source black vintage hands for this model. Looks like the original dial is going to stay on the movement for this restoration project. It’s hard to find any original handsets. Any advice would be greatly appreciated- Scott

 

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sheepdoll

·Sep 8, 2023

I have been keeping a weather eye out for Lemania hands when I dip down the rabbit holes. The hour hand on mine is missing.

oFrie has a selection of hands. Not always easy though to find the right ones. I got an assortment of chronograph hands which only cover Landeron, Venus and Valjoux. They are also fairly long and more for a 36 to 42mm dial. I guess people like big watches.

Ranfft gives 1.90 x 1.00 x 0.20 / 0.20 x 0.20 x 0.20mm for the dimensions.

Most searches tend to map back to Omega. Ideally I would like to find a set of Tissot hands that match the ratCase.

What I really need to do is call around (or email) the material houses. Never seem to find the right time to do that. If I sit down here I tend to do a lot of command-R refreshes.