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Jacquot
·Beautiful watch and great write up as well.
Lady Luck delivers an early Longines Chronometre
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dougiedude
··Carpe horologium!I had not seen this post before, and I'm so glad to find it!
Perhaps this could be converted into a Longines sub-forum 'sticky'?
It is so beautifully written, and chock full of great information.
Thank you, @Tony C. ! 👍
Perhaps this could be converted into a Longines sub-forum 'sticky'?
It is so beautifully written, and chock full of great information.
Thank you, @Tony C. ! 👍
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberThank you all very much for your kind comments on my resurrected post!
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nightowl
·What exactly is your relationship with Lady Luck?
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marturx
·Very educational! Learned alot, thanks Tony 👍
Check on that. Adding some vintage watch knowledge today 😀
Check on that. Adding some vintage watch knowledge today 😀
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Rman
·I can't get enough of the crown🥰
A watch lover's watch indeed.
A watch lover's watch indeed.
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ericf4
·that is downright gorgeous....The dial and movement are mind blowing...Love it.....
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micampe
·Thank you Tony for sharing the beautiful watch and its history. Truly something special.
I noticed the age of the post only because you said “resurrected” 😀
I noticed the age of the post only because you said “resurrected” 😀
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JohnLy
·What a great and interesting post and the watch is stunning...Thanks for sharing
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KingCrouchy
·Thank you for this stunning read! I gained a deeper understanding of Vintage Longines and I really enjoyed it. Simply well written with passion.
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberThanks very much to the several posters above for their kind comments!
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bimbim1207
·more than 5 years since the thread opening and thank you so much Tony C for the great post! It really expands my understanding of Longines' expertise and vision as a newbie in appreicating Longines pieces
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alam
·I have no idea how I missed this thread!!? dunno! I was probably focused on where the economy was heading! 😜 beautiful piece Tony! enjoy! 🥰
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Syrte
·Reading this thread again with a fresh eye and certainly with time a slightly better understanding, I’m wondering what the price differential would have been in those days @Tony C. between say a 30T2RG and the 12.68Z chronometer you’ve evaluated at around 140 dollars.
And were the 30T2RGs even produced into the early 50s?
The fact that Omega marketed automatic Constellations and Seamasters for over 10 times the price of the Longines 12.68Z chronometer you posted above reminds me of the fact that according to current Longines Brand Heritage staffers, Longines always positioned itself as a quality watch at an affordable price.
So while this is merely speculation, I can’t help but think your post may be pinpointing what may have been a key point in the Longines history, where they chose a strategy to remain affordable instead of spending heavily to advertise and bring to market the most “precise” watches.
And were the 30T2RGs even produced into the early 50s?
The fact that Omega marketed automatic Constellations and Seamasters for over 10 times the price of the Longines 12.68Z chronometer you posted above reminds me of the fact that according to current Longines Brand Heritage staffers, Longines always positioned itself as a quality watch at an affordable price.
So while this is merely speculation, I can’t help but think your post may be pinpointing what may have been a key point in the Longines history, where they chose a strategy to remain affordable instead of spending heavily to advertise and bring to market the most “precise” watches.
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jef33
·Syrte, le 30T2RGSC était produit au moins en 1948, papier Oméga.
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Shabbaz
·Damn. Impressive write up. Respect. Setting a new goal for 2020. A longines chronometre. Let the hunt begin!
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberReading this thread again with a fresh eye and certainly with time a slightly better understanding, I’m wondering what the price differential would have been in those days @Tony C. between say a 30T2RG and the 12.68Z chronometer you’ve evaluated at around 140 dollars.
And were the 30T2RGs even produced into the early 50s?
The fact that Omega marketed automatic Constellations and Seamasters for over 10 times the price of the Longines 12.68Z chronometer you posted above reminds me of the fact that according to current Longines Brand Heritage staffers, Longines always positioned itself as a quality watch at an affordable price.
So while this is merely speculation, I can’t help but think your post may be pinpointing what may have been a key point in the Longines history, where they chose a strategy to remain affordable instead of spending heavily to advertise and bring to market the most “precise” watches.
Your numbers are inaccurate, S. Constellations and Seamasters were nowhere near 10 times the price of the Longines. In fact, I happen to have a 1953 Omega catalogue from Switzerland for comparisons. An 18k Seamaster is listed for 820 CHF, roughly 30% more expensive. 18k chronometre Seamasters and Constellations were 950 and 960 CHF. There are no 30T2Rg chronometres listed, probably because automatics and new model lines were being marketed heavily. But they were being produced and sold, and probably not for significantly more than the prices of the models noted above.
So, Omega was priced higher, but not to a shocking degree, and your basic point about Longines value probably stands.
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Syrte
·I don't have any numbers at all, I was just reading (inaccurately indeed) from your post some figures which I'm now realizing were dollars vs Swiss francs.
Still interested in the price comparison -- and appreciate your update.
The bottom line is that for some reason Longines apparently chose not to compete head to head with regards to smaller sized chronometer grade calibers.
And while vintage Longines enthusiasts sometimes bemoan Longines' current mid-range positioning within the array of the Swatch group products, your research suggests that Longines may have made a similar choice itself at least at one point in its history.
What then happened with the production of later chronometer models such as the Conquest, Flagship, etc is of course another chapter.
And of course all of this makes the OP watch even more remarkable.
Still interested in the price comparison -- and appreciate your update.
The bottom line is that for some reason Longines apparently chose not to compete head to head with regards to smaller sized chronometer grade calibers.
And while vintage Longines enthusiasts sometimes bemoan Longines' current mid-range positioning within the array of the Swatch group products, your research suggests that Longines may have made a similar choice itself at least at one point in its history.
What then happened with the production of later chronometer models such as the Conquest, Flagship, etc is of course another chapter.
And of course all of this makes the OP watch even more remarkable.
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aap
·Such a delight to re-read this post! Congrats again Tony and....DIBS, futile as it may be 🙄!
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