Jumbo Connie 14395 Franken?

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JBSMP

·Dec 2, 2025

Hi Guys,

Looking to purchase a gold capped 14393 and came across this 14395. This is a new reference to me and appears to be one of the jumbo Connie’s from east Asia. However, it appears to have a movement 561 which I believe is incorrect? It’s an 18 million serial so this would put it at 1961 I believe. Is this watch a complete franken or is it possible to have this movement in this watch?

NB I know it’s not fantastic condition but to be honest I’m not looking for that. I’m looking for an honest Connie that I can wear and enjoy and not worry about too much.

Thanks

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 2, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

there are a couple of options that I can see.

First, I can't see a 14393 dial fitting into a jumbo case - did the seller give the case dimensions?
It could be that they mis-read the ref and it is a 14393. (the case back pic is somewhat inconclusive)
It has the classic missing-text dial for a 14381/14393 - and that would explain the cal 561 movt.

Failing that, if it is really jumbo sized - it could be some kind of cross-over - but I don't recall any others appearing.

Paging Teerapat - since he authored a thread on the 14395 a little while ago.
@qazwsx1 .

 

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SOG53

·Dec 2, 2025

Looks like 14393-61 to me with dial and 561 all consistent.
Case looks soft not great example. What is asking price?
And replacement crown.

 

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JBSMP

·Dec 2, 2025

Thanks @Peemacgee, makes a lot more sense for it to simply be the dealers mistake and now I look at the caseback it does look as though it could say 14393 and not 14395….

@SOG53, thanks for your response. Price is £870.

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 2, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

Whilst a decent cased gold-cap 14393 might be half as much again, I don’t see £895 being a bargain for this watch due to the soft case and patinated dial.

However, if you like the ‘lived-in’ look and the price fits your budget then you won’t be disappointed as these references are a lovely watch to wear.

 

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Dan S

·Dec 2, 2025

That case is not what I'd call great condition, certainly don't pay a premium for it.

 

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Shabbaz

·Dec 2, 2025

My 14395...

https://omegaforums.net/threads/my-new-14395-jumbo-connie.110138/

Thread 'My new 14395 Jumbo Connie' ·

I thought this one deserves a thread of his own. According to the research of @Banner Roar this is the sixth known example of the model 14395. It's in very good condition, with the right...

Shabbaz · Feb 27, 2020

 

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ErichKeane

·Dec 2, 2025

That case back ABSOLUTELY looks like 14395-61SC to me, so its an odd mix here to me.

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 2, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

ErichKeane

That case back ABSOLUTELY looks like 14395-61SC to me, so its an odd mix here to me.

Do you mean you think the reference says 14395 or do you see some detail that you think differentiates the outside from a 14393 caseback?

 

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ErichKeane

·Dec 2, 2025

Peemacgee

Do you mean you think the reference says 14395 or do you see some detail that you think differentiates the outside from a 14393 caseback?

Just the reference. Case back picture is pretty crystal clear to me...

 

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ErichKeane

·Dec 2, 2025

ErichKeane

Just the reference. Case back picture is pretty crystal clear to me...

Though honestly, zooming in, I might be seeing compression artifacts that are making me more sure than I should be.

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 2, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

I honestly can’t tell for sure what the reference is.

There is one simple solution to the case reference question.
The OP just needs to ask the seller to measure the case.

Then, if it is a jumbo, we can have the debate about the dial and movt.

 

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qazwsx1

·Dec 2, 2025

For me, the case and dial look more like reference 14393. Also, the outside of the caseback is not the jumbo type like my 14395. The movement for reference 14395 should be cal. 504, which this one doesn’t have. The movement number 18,191,xxx is also too late for reference 14395. In the description, it was mentioned that the watch measures 34.5 mm excluding the crown, which is smaller than the larger case of the 14395.

The picture showing the 14395 might be from a different watch.

 

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qazwsx1

·Dec 2, 2025

You can check out the review of my 14395 here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/daddy-of-the-jumbo-constellation-ref-14395-with-the-tapestry-dial-my-watch-and-the-research.166650/

Thread 'Daddy of the jumbo Constellation (ref.14395) with the tapestry dial: My watch and the research' ·

Hello all members,😁😀

For the jumbo constellation, normally we can divide it into date or no date version.
The date version will be the reference 168.001, 14777 and 14395, while the no date...

qazwsx1 · Dec 9, 2023

 

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ErichKeane

·Dec 2, 2025

qazwsx1

For me, the case and dial look more like reference 14393. Also, the outside of the caseback is not the jumbo type like my 14395. The movement for reference 14395 should be cal. 504, which this one doesn’t have. The movement number 18,191,xxx is also too late for reference 14395. In the description, it was mentioned that the watch measures 34.5 mm excluding the crown, which is smaller than the larger case of the 14395.

The picture showing the 14395 might be from a different watch.

I compared the 3rd and 5th digit a bunch and realized that the top bar and the loop are identical.

The ONLY suspicious part is what is between the loop and top bar. What looks like the stroke of a 5 is much less defined, to the point that I wonder if it is a compression artifact. I suspect based on everything else that it IS a 3....

Thanks to the above I spent way too long looking at those numbers 😀

 

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JBSMP

·Dec 3, 2025

Hi all, I spoke to the dealer and he said that it was an error on his part and that it was a typo. The watch is actually a 14393 and it says this on the caseback as well. So all in all the watch checks out and there is no mystery! Apologies for sending you all on a goose chase!

Some people have mentioned feeling that £870 feels expensive for the condition. I felt that even in this condition the watch is still a good price. Could anyone here point me to a 14393 for a similar price that is in better condition? I can’t see any for sale on this forum.

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 3, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

I was looking for information about who made the 14395 cases for Omega (the OP’s watch is a CB)
Just to show how great AI is for all those who rely on it for watch information (and by that I mean total bollocks and can’t be trusted ) this was the AI response.

Of course Omega made all their vintage watch cases in house…..(oh no they didn’t!)

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 3, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

As an aside an advert came up with the AI response from the Amsterdam Watch Company - also mis-describing a 35mm watch as 14395 (they didn’t call it a jumbo)

And whilst very similar, it’s not the same watch.

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 3, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

JBSMP

Hi all, I spoke to the dealer and he said that it was an error on his part and that it was a typo. The watch is actually a 14393 and it says this on the caseback as well. So all in all the watch checks out and there is no mystery! Apologies for sending you all on a goose chase!

Some people have mentioned feeling that £870 feels expensive for the condition. I felt that even in this condition the watch is still a good price.

Thank you for the clarification.
So, your initial concerns were well-founded and you were right to ask about the watch.

Regarding price - finding a good condition watch at a reasonable price (or a lees than good condition watch at a sensible price) takes patience ( and a bit of good luck)

 

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Peemacgee

·Dec 3, 2025·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

ErichKeane

I compared the 3rd and 5th digit a bunch and realized that the top bar and the loop are identical.

The ONLY suspicious part is what is between the loop and top bar. What looks like the stroke of a 5 is much less defined, to the point that I wonder if it is a compression artifact. I suspect based on everything else that it IS a 3....

Thanks to the above I spent way too long looking at those numbers 😀

Just goes to show that, sometimes, we can all see what we want to see in an inconclusive photo.