JLC Atmos finally spot on....

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Very few home systems have that kind of steady temperature year round, usually a house is warmer in the winter (heating), cooler in the summer (a/c), with daily variations.
What is heating? 😁 For 9 months a year the windows are closed and A/C tightly controlled.

When it goes flat, it is usually in fall or spring, when temperatures fluctuate very little.

Seriously, the clock probably does needs a good overhaul. That may be in the budget then next time it runs down.
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Haven't updated this thread in a while...I've done an analysis of the past 28 Months running time of my Atmos (taking accuracy readings monthly). I have not adjusted the clock in any way during this time.

AVERAGE Daily Variation over 28 months: +0.113 seconds/day

I adjusted the clock yesterday for the first time in 28months, back by 95 secs to show correct time. Then another 60 seconds back to account for the future variation. My plan is to wait til it is 1 minute ahead, then adjust to 1 minute behind actual time. I should only have to do this every THREE YEARS.

BTW, clock is almost 60yrs old. (1962)

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Just a quick update, my Atmos has now been running continuously for 4 1/2 yrs, all on nothing but room temperature variations. It does swing seasonally from 0.5s/d to -0.5s/d. It is transitioning to summer here in Florida, so its starting to run a bit slower, currently at -0.25secs/day. Just amazing.

If I calculate all the seasonal variations over the whole 4 1/2yrs, the grand avg has been 0.02 secs/day.
 
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@Wryfox
Got mine in April and have now adjusted it to be close to ‘perfect’, or good enough for now!
The bar to retard is quite well over, is this normal or, like a watch, a sign that a service is on the horizon? Thanks.

 
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@Wryfox
Got mine in April and have now adjusted it to be close to ‘perfect’, or good enough for now!
The bar to retard is quite well over, is this normal or, like a watch, a sign that a service is on the horizon? Thanks.


It's a sign of compensating for your environment, nothing more. Atmos are so sensitive to the world around them, you may use up the range of that adjustment just moving it across the room. BTW, this is considered the 'fine' adjustment. The gross adjustment is the notched nut at the center under the top plate. I had to use that too to get to where I am now. The service manuals are readily available via internet search.
 
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A guy on eBay is selling a spanner for the gross adjustment.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/355061046055


That certainly looks like the right tool for the job. I used a pair of needle nose pliers and they worked just fine. It's not hard to turn that nut. That being said, I was 10s of minutes off to start with (due to a shitty service job, a tale I've told in earlier posts). The service manual says exactly how much turn for how much correction.
 
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A guy on eBay is selling a spanner for the gross adjustment.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/355061046055

Bought and paid for!


Running plus 10 minute in a week when I first got it just been pausing moving the lever incrementally a resetting every week or so.


Thanks both of you.
Now to look for the manual….
 
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Bought and paid for!
Hoping to borrow yours!
Good luck on the manuals, please keep us posted.

Joking about you doing all the work, but you have restarted my interest in my old Atmos.
Your contribution is appreciated.
 
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Must have missed this thread.

I recently received a panic call from a mate I service watches for. He had a friend with an Atmos that was losing time badly. Apparently it had been shipped without the balance being locked. He asked if I could do anything and being a sucker I said yes. As it had probably been dropped at some stage, I suspected that the suspension wire may have been pulled down slightly, thus making the balance turn slower. I wasn't game to try adjusting the length of the wire so I hoped I could allow for it with the regulator.

When it arrived (locked this time) I disassembled the case so I could inspect the movement in detail. I found nothing wrong so after cleaning the case parts I put it all back together on my solid bench and set it running at the correct time. I let it settle for two days and then started timing it the same way @Wryfox did. I used a stop watch to check balance rotation and also to time the difference between reference time and final tick time. After two weeks of timing and doing an adjustment every two days the clock was still losing time and I'd reached the limit of the retard lever.

Luckily I found a manual where re-setting the regulator is described, so I did that by the method where you set the lever full one way, block the crown nut with a screwdriver and then move the lever the other way and set to mid and start again.

Happy to say after another two or three weeks I had it running on time and it went back to the owner last week.

Couple of pics.

I had to replace the worn out bits of felt on the feet (one had nothing). I don't know what original clocks had so I improvised with hard rubber chair tips.



This was the final timing shot. I set it ever so slightly fast as it's easier to simply lock the balance for a few moments about every three months if needed.

 
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PS: I also have a copy of the repair manual (not JLC) if anybody needs one. Just PM me.
 
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PS: I also have a copy of the repair manual (not JLC) if anybody needs one. Just PM me.

Jim, I never reinvent the wheel (or am a lazy sod) PM on the way. Seriously the manuals I found last might, e.g. manuallib are very basic and do not cover what you describe.
 
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@Wryfox
Got mine in April and have now adjusted it to be close to ‘perfect’, or good enough for now!
The bar to retard is quite well over, is this normal or, like a watch, a sign that a service is on the horizon? Thanks.

Just noticed the suspension wire on yours looks quite short Paul, probably should have more poking out of the collar like this one.



It's probably not an issue as any breakage of a suspension wire will require a new one anyway, and that has to be followed up by "tuning" the suspension wire. Once that's done, you can then book a month in your calendar for regulating the movement.

Now I know why it takes so long to service these lovely things.
 
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wire on yours looks quite short

Can’t actually see any sign of it! The black line down the post centre is an iPad reflection, so probably best not to bugger about with the nut?

 
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Stopped for summer time change, restarted and running like a good ‘un. Really love this clock.

 
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Stopped for summer time change, restarted and running like a good ‘un. Really love this clock.



Just FYI, it's far better to adjust the time manually than stop and restart. When restarting it takes about 3 weeks for the pendulum to stabilize.
 
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SO, I actually just discovered the Atmos on youtube! This is such a cool clock, I think I'll have to pick one up some day!