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·The marks on the case-back here suggest the watch has been serviced at least three times:
J ai besoin d’aide pour identifier cette montre
The marks on the case-back here suggest the watch has been serviced at least three times:
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·Une petite remarque concernant la lettre « E » : peut-être que la police de caractères était ainsi dans les années 1950 et que le « E » a évolué avec le temps ? Je l'ai apportée chez un bijoutier - la très réputée bijouterie Fournier - pour faire remplacer le joint torique. Il a remarqué la minuscule rainure sur le verre et m'a dit qu'elle était d'origine, c'est-à-dire qu'elle n'avait jamais été retirée… Bref… je ne suis certainement pas expert, mais son raisonnement me semble logique.
voir info gravure pour info j ai deux boîtier or et argent
Notez également qu'il s'agit d'un boîtier de montre de fabrication américaine, ce qui est intéressant.
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·Une petite remarque concernant la lettre « E » : peut-être que la police de caractères était ainsi dans les années 1950 et que le « E » a évolué avec le temps ? Je l’ai apportée chez un bijoutier - la très réputée bijouterie Fournier - pour faire remplacer le joint torique. Il a remarqué la minuscule rainure sur le verre et m’a dit qu’elle était d’origine, c’est-à-dire qu’elle n’avait jamais été retirée… Bref… je ne suis certainement pas expert, mais son raisonnement me paraît logique j ai deux boîtier en passant dans le boîtier en or à des infos graver
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·Just a thought regarding the letter 'E': maybe the typeface was like that back in the 1950s and the 'E' changed over time? I took it to a jeweler—the highly reputable Fournier jewelry store—to have the O-ring replaced. He noticed the tiny groove on the crystal and said it was the original one, meaning it had never been removed... so... I'm certainly no expert, but his reasoning makes sense.
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·Just a thought regarding the letter 'E': maybe the typeface was like that back in the 1950s and the 'E' changed over time? I took it to a jeweler—the highly reputable Fournier jewelry store—to have the O-ring replaced. He noticed the tiny groove on the crystal and said it was the original one, meaning it had never been removed... so... I'm certainly no expert, but his reasoning makes sense.
Omega Seamaster -
Caliber 420 - Ref. 2759 /
2761 SC - All Original
Description:
Up for sale is a beautiful and fully authentic 1951 Omega Seamaster. A textbook example, perfect for vintage watch collectors.
• Movement: Manual-wound Caliber 420.
Serial number
12,692,192 (dates it to 1951). Very clean movement with its original rose
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·gold/copper plating.
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Case: Stainless steel, official Swiss reference 2759 /
2761 SC. Desirable
"Beefy lugs" case layout, sharp and unpolished.
Caseback features original Seamaster /
Waterproof crisp engravings.
• Dial: Original untouched cream dial (not a redial) with the highly sought-after "3-6-9-12" layout and applied Arrowhead markers. Original Dauphine hands.
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Case: Stainless steel, official Swiss reference 2759 /
2761 SC. Desirable
"Beefy lugs" case layout, sharp and unpolished.
Caseback features original Seamaster /
Waterproof crisp engravings.
• Dial: Original untouched cream dial (not a redial) with the highly sought-after "3-6-9-12" layout and applied Arrowhead markers. Original Dauphine hands.
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·I my opinion, the watch is fully original. Maybe relumed hands.
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·sought-after "3-6-9-12" layout and applied Arrowhead markers. Original Dauphine hands.
• Bonus: Included is a spare vintage US-market empty case
(Star Watch Case
Co., Starbrite screw-back / Gold-filled case).
• Bonus: Included is a spare vintage US-market empty case
(Star Watch Case
Co., Starbrite screw-back / Gold-filled case).
It is very possible that the crystal is original still, while the dial has been re-touched during one of the times when the watch was serviced
The marks on the case-back here suggest the watch has been serviced at least three times:
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·Hello again, I can't help but notice that this watch has been painted. Looking very closely at the lettering and under the 6 marker, you'll see the Swiss markings. Also, check the inside of the case and the movement, which is remarkably clean. I've found many watches with both styles of E
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·Here are some watches showing the different styles of the "E" in OMEGA; I have never found another watch with a dial like mine—featuring the sought-after 3-6-9-12 configuration and original dauphine hands
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·You are the experts, but I am trying to understand: here are some Omega watches with different "E"s that are being sold as authentic—see the photo
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·Thank you Thank you
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·You cannot compare the font from the late 50’s to the 80’s. It changed several times.
Also, the crystal being original doesn’t mean the watch was never opened. It’s common for vintage watches to reuse the crystal unless it’s damaged.
I agree the dial is not original and has been repainted. Your close up pictures show the quality it not there for an original Omega dial.
Also, the crystal being original doesn’t mean the watch was never opened. It’s common for vintage watches to reuse the crystal unless it’s damaged.
I agree the dial is not original and has been repainted. Your close up pictures show the quality it not there for an original Omega dial.
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·This seems like it has perhaps become a sales ad; and a somewhat disingenuous one at that, given what has been discussed.
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·Thank you for your help. I plan to visit a vintage watch specialist in person and show them this beautiful watch—along with its two original cases—to confirm whether or not the dial has been repainted (Ref. No. 2759/2761). The movement inside is very clean, suggesting it was well maintained; my father told me before he passed away that he was leaving me this valuable watch—an heirloom from my grandfather, who was very proud of it. I am grateful today for this wonderful gift, which I received in 2011 and have kept carefully stored ever since.
Thank you for taking the time to assist me; please let me know if you notice anything else. The American origin of the case: Star Watch Case Company
The inscription in the center reads "STAR WATCH CASE COMPANY" and features their star-shaped logo. It was a case manufacturer based in Michigan, USA.
In the 1940s and 1950s, Omega shipped its uncased movements from Switzerland to America, and companies like Star manufactured the cases locally. This made it possible to avoid the exorbitant import duties levied on complete watches. It serves as indisputable proof of historical authenticity.
Thank you for taking the time to assist me; please let me know if you notice anything else. The American origin of the case: Star Watch Case Company
The inscription in the center reads "STAR WATCH CASE COMPANY" and features their star-shaped logo. It was a case manufacturer based in Michigan, USA.
In the 1940s and 1950s, Omega shipped its uncased movements from Switzerland to America, and companies like Star manufactured the cases locally. This made it possible to avoid the exorbitant import duties levied on complete watches. It serves as indisputable proof of historical authenticity.
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·I wouldn’t let the fact the dial has been refinished bother me. Who wants a pristine, unworn heirloom handed down to them? A watch that lived a life in your grandfathers (and fathers?) wrist, that could tell a thousand family stories would be just as valuable to me.
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·Thanks again for your service. I’ve sent the photos again so you can take a closer look—I don’t want to be a nuisance, but I want to be honest and straightforward with you. As for references—I’m not familiar with Chrono24 either.