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Is this a real Geneve? Red applied logo?

londonese
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Was hunting through the markets in with my brother yesterday and spotted this very clean looking Geneve waiting to be purchased, but couldn't figure out if it was a real ref. or not. The thing that really caught my eye was the red applied logo.

The dial calls out tritium, but where the tritium would have sat at the ends of the hands - those were totally hollow, and there were no signs of tritium 'pips' at the end of the applied indices.

It was very very tempting to get it, but the vendor was asking for a chunky number and couldn't just take the chance without a little research!! Hope you guys can help!

Thanks!

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TexOmega
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Welcome

In your research, did you find another like this? Please show pictures.

Did any of your research of all the watch forum threads on Geneve watches you read, did you ever see a mention of anything like this with or without pictures?

Have you seen pictures of the movement?
 
Dan S
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I wouldn't be surprised if the logo were painted. But I don't think I've seen the read applied logo.
 
londonese
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TexOmega TexOmega
Welcome

In your research, did you find another like this? Please show pictures.

Did any of your research of all the watch forum threads on Geneve watches you read, did you ever see a mention of anything like this with or without pictures?

Have you seen pictures of the movement?
Yup. Been checking the forum and internet and asking A.I(!). So far, I've found Geneve around 67-70 that have the printed red lines, much like the example we saw, but the logo was also printed, but in also in red - on those examples, the indicates were flat printed too. Separately, I've found other similar Geneves' that had applied logo and indicies, the same hands but the logo wasn't red, found that was in one of the catalogues in old-omega.com. But no luck in finding any references that was a combo of the two!
TexOmega TexOmega
Welcome

In your research, did you find another like this? Please show pictures.

Did any of your research of all the watch forum threads on Geneve watches you read, did you ever see a mention of anything like this with or without pictures?

Have you seen pictures of the movement?
 
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I guess its a redial. Is says t Swiss Made t but i cant find tritium dots. And the Hands have been repainted. Probably someone wanted to be creative
 
londonese
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Porteroso Porteroso
If that is a redial, what a neat job.
Porteroso Porteroso
If that is a redial, what a neat job.
I think you guys are right, it's really really neat. .. just wouldn't pay the asking as it's not original.
 
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I guess its a redial. Is says t Swiss Made t but i cant find tritium dots. And the Hands have been repainted. Probably someone wanted to be creative
redial with orginal pad perhaps - good spot on the T, dont think ive ever seen a red logo on a geneve
 
Passover
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I guess its a redial. Is says t Swiss Made t but i cant find tritium dots. And the Hands have been repainted. Probably someone wanted to be creative
This!
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padders
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I can't believe it is fully legit but I like it all the same. The lack of dial lume with Ts is disconcerting and the red logo is a red flag but the text and cross hairs are nice. I like it regardless of how iffy it may be. It can't be right but I wish it was.
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ErichKeane
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The "IC" in automatic stick out to me as having poor spacing, otherwise this is a pretty nice redial. I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone with a pro-dial making setup.

That said, given the age of this style and the condition of the white dial + hands, there is a lot of 'fantasy' going on here. I doubt Omega would have done a red logo too, but otherwise it looks pretty good.
 
JimJupiter
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I guess the inspiration comes from the Seamaster 600 "Technical". But the logo here is printed and not applied:


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londonese
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ErichKeane ErichKeane
The "IC" in automatic stick out to me as having poor spacing, otherwise this is a pretty nice redial. I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone with a pro-dial making setup.

That said, given the age of this style and the condition of the white dial + hands, there is a lot of 'fantasy' going on here. I doubt Omega would have done a red logo too, but otherwise it looks pretty good.
Good catch!
 
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EDIT:
After checking the picture on Desktop i agree with the rest of the group that it was just a bad paint job, my doubts came from only having one picture (bigger and cropped) and having seen in other occasions strange reflections when a picture is not taken straight in front

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Do you have other pictures of the watch?

it seems like we only have one picture and the red could alse be a reflection on the metal logo, my 2c.
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t_kermi
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I guess its a redial. Is says t Swiss Made t but i cant find tritium dots. And the Hands have been repainted. Probably someone wanted to be creative
But doesn't the partial lume on the hands explain the "T" markings?
 
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t_kermi t_kermi
But doesn't the partial lume on the hands explain the "T" markings?
No. Firstly, usally you don’t see a no lume dial and lume hands combination and vice versa. Also, the dial is marked, independently from the hands. So a T marking without lume is also
Without sense 😀
 
t_kermi
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JimJupiter JimJupiter
No. Firstly, usally you don’t see a no lume dial and lume hands combination and vice versa. Also, the dial is marked, independently from the hands. So a T marking without lume is also
Without sense 😀
Ah yeah, seems all my lume hands but no lume dial watches don't have "T" marking. I thought this would be different on newer watches because my examples don't have that "T" because they use radium lume. But now searching online I noticed you are correct.

There are some exceptions to the rule, like many vintage Rolex had "T" markings printed without any lume from factory. But Rolex is the only manufacturer I'm aware who was using this method.
 
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