Is Omega Fairly Classified As An Entry Level Luxury Brand?

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I think the ranking should be based on (a) whether the subject brand has been in outer space and (b) how good looking the brand’s ambassadors are. Omega has been to the moon and they have Kidman, Crawford, Craig, Clooney, Wie, Redmayne, etc. Therefore, Omega should clearly be ranked first. 😁
Naaah... beauty is subjective and brand outer space will change: First watch on the Moon, then First watch on Mars, etc.

I suggest to use the greek alphabet in reverse order. The ranking will be always objective, always up to date.
 
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Naaah... beauty is subjective and brand outer space will change: First watch on the Moon, then First watch on Mars, etc.

I suggest to use the greek alphabet in reverse order. The ranking will be always objective, always up to date.

I can work with that.
 
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Bet it is worth $2800 here

https://invictacruise.com/#!/

I just got back last weekend from the Bahamas on a Norwegian cruise, and they were selling all kinds of Invicta POS on the ship for 75% off MSRP. It was sad, since MSRP is 600% more than they're worth.

The best brand the cruise line carried was TAG HEUER and I didn't like any of the selection more than my TAG F1 Red Bull Chronograph that I bought as a beater chronograph on a cruise a few years back (sold all my other TAG) for 20% off.

Instead I went to all the Watch AD I could find in Nassau to look for Rolex but the AD had nothing but jewel encrusted Datejusts, and a solid gold Yachtmaster I. Both Omega AD didn't have the Apollo 8 or X1 50th that I was wanting to see in person, but had loads of everything else.

Omega and Rolex won't let their watches be sold on cruise lines while they still sell other crap watches.

EDIT - to clarify, I have paid up to $60 for a couple of Invicta watches that I bought to give as gifts, but in the past couple of years or so I have upped my game to give $100-200 Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko watches as gifts instead.
 
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I just got back last weekend from the Bahamas on a Norwegian cruise, and they were selling all kinds of Invicta POS on the ship for 75% off MSRP. It was sad, since MSRP is 600% more than they're worth.

The best brand the cruise line carried was TAG HEUER and I didn't like any of the selection more than my TAG F1 Red Bull Chronograph that I bought as a beater chronograph on a cruise a few years back (sold all my other TAG) for 20% off.

Instead I went to all the Watch AD I could find in Nassau to look for Rolex but the AD had nothing but jewel encrusted Datejusts, and a solid gold Yachtmaster I. Both Omega AD didn't have the Apollo 8 or X1 50th that I was wanting to see in person, but had loads of everything else.

Omega and Rolex won't let their watches be sold on cruise lines while they still sell other crap watches.

EDIT - to clarify, I have paid up to $60 for a couple of Invicta watches that I bought to give as gifts, but in the past couple of years or so I have upped my game to give $100-200 Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko watches as gifts instead.

Invicta watch is a horological example of a re-gift. I try not to be a watch snob, and it would depend on the model, but, for the most part, if I ever got an Invicta as a gift, it's being re-gifted the first chance I get.
 
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Lol, kidding about the Casio, but the cheap ass Swatches that are “limited” editions bring seriously stupid prices later on. Been looking into getting some next release for sure just to put up.
 
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I just got back last weekend from the Bahamas on a Norwegian cruise, and they were selling all kinds of Invicta POS on the ship for 75% off MSRP. It was sad, since MSRP is 600% more than they're worth.

The best brand the cruise line carried was TAG HEUER and I didn't like any of the selection more than my TAG F1 Red Bull Chronograph that I bought as a beater chronograph on a cruise a few years back (sold all my other TAG) for 20% off.

Instead I went to all the Watch AD I could find in Nassau to look for Rolex but the AD had nothing but jewel encrusted Datejusts, and a solid gold Yachtmaster I. Both Omega AD didn't have the Apollo 8 or X1 50th that I was wanting to see in person, but had loads of everything else.

Omega and Rolex won't let their watches be sold on cruise lines while they still sell other crap watches.

EDIT - to clarify, I have paid up to $60 for a couple of Invicta watches that I bought to give as gifts, but in the past couple of years or so I have upped my game to give $100-200 Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko watches as gifts instead.

Seiko - perfect gift
 
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Invicta watch is a horological example of a re-gift. I try not to be a watch snob, and it would depend on the model, but, for the most part, if I ever got an Invicta as a gift, it's being re-gifted the first chance I get.

Invicta are only good as gifts for non-watch people, or for people that like to blow things up with firecrackers.
 
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Sure, as long as you don’t care about accuracy.
Hard to beat quartz on accuracy. Of course they hold no value once you leave with them.
 
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Sure, as long as you don’t care about accuracy.

That might be true of my SKX watches, which would often be 15-20 seconds off each day despite multiple attempts at regulation. But after regulation this summer, my Seiko PADI Turtle and Blue Lagoon Turtle are often within a second or two a day of atomic time (BL LE was losing 2-4 sec/day from factory, PADI was losing about 1 sec/day over the 1st year)

My PADI Turtle most recently ran for 90 days anywhere between + 1.3 sec/day and -1.8 sec/day, with a total loss of 11 seconds in 92 days and avg -0.12 sec/day (on wrist and winder).

My Blue Lagoon Prospex LE most recently ran 25 days on wrist and winder while gaining 32 seconds, for +1.28 sec/day avg, running anywhere from +0.4 to +1.9 sec/day during that time.
 
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Think I briefly saw that first pyramid and they say Ulysse Nardin, Hublot and Glashutte don't lose value? hahahahahaha
 
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Those charts, at least the bottom half or so, are at best marketing bullshit charts. If you were talking about actual quality of watches, Rolex really shouldn’t be ahead of Omega.
 
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That might be true of my SKX watches, which would often be 15-20 seconds off each day despite multiple attempts at regulation. But after regulation this summer, my Seiko PADI Turtle and Blue Lagoon Turtle are often within a second or two a day of atomic time (BL LE was losing 2-4 sec/day from factory, PADI was losing about 1 sec/day over the 1st year)

My PADI Turtle most recently ran for 90 days anywhere between + 1.3 sec/day and -1.8 sec/day, with a total loss of 11 seconds in 92 days and avg -0.12 sec/day (on wrist and winder).

My Blue Lagoon Prospex LE most recently ran 25 days on wrist and winder while gaining 32 seconds, for +1.28 sec/day avg, running anywhere from +0.4 to +1.9 sec/day during that time.
I've had a similar experience with multiple SKX007/009. The 7S26 movement is rubbish. Lack of handwinding aside, I've managed to regulate a couple myself to around +3 s/d. But the problem is, even the slightest shock to the watch (against a table, door frame, etc) throws off the regulation. Even dropping the watch on a table 3 inches up throws it off. Something about that specific movement is rotten. No problems with something slightly higher up the chain like the 6R15

Obviously, it's not a G-Shock but come on! It's a freakin' diver! Should be as bulletproof as the fanboys claim it is.
 
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I don't agree with the value chart, but I can see where it's based on which Hodinkee covers a bit in this article.

I'd suggest to the OP, if you want to look at it that way, maybe instead look at the list created by the FHH (Foundation Haute Horlogerie) which takes a more in-depth view and explain their choices. We see Omega and Rolex make the list.

HFF List Cut and Pasted Below....

But even this... well I'm not sure I agree Tudor not being on the list yet Montblanc is (shrug)... I started to read their reasoning and then realized I don't care too much... though I can appreciate the crazy echelon brands, I'll never own one and quite happy with (in current enjoyment order) Vintage Omega's, Rolex, Cartier, Oris, Tudor, Sieko, Timex, Dan Henry and coming Maen Panda.

HISTORIC MAISONS
A. Lange & Söhne, Audemars Piguet, Blancpain, Bovet Fleurier, Breguet, Breitling, Bulgari, Carl F. Bucherer, Cartier, Chopard, Girard-Perregaux, Glashütte Original, H. Moser & Cie, Harry Winston, IWC, Jaeger-LeCoultre, Jaquet Droz, Panerai, Omega, Patek Philippe, Piaget, Rolex, TAG Heuer, Tudor, Ulysse Nardin, Vacheron Constantin, Van Cleef & Arpels, Zenith

CONTEMPORARY BRANDS
Armin Strom, Arnold & Son, Les Ateliers Louis Moinet, Christophe Claret, De Bethune, DeWitt, Fabergé, Ferdinand Berthoud, F.P. Journe, Graff, Greubel Forsey, Hautlence, Hublot, HYT, Laurent Ferrier, MB&F, Moritz Grossmann, NOMOS Glashütte, Parmigiani Fleurier, Ressence, Richard Mille, Roger Dubuis, Romain Gauthier, RJ-Romain Jerome, Rudis Sylva, Speake-Marin, Urwerk

LUXURY BRANDS
Chanel, Hermès, Louis Vuitton, Montblanc

ARTISANS-CREATORS
Andersen Genève, Andreas Strehler, Antoine Preziuso, Beat Haldimann, Christiaan Van der Klaauw, Grönefeld, Kari Voutilainen, Konstantin Chaykin, Lang & Heyne, Mc Gonigle, Philippe Dufour, Roger W. Smith, Sarpaneva, Thomas Prescher, Vianney Halter



 
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Omega and Rolex won't let their watches be sold on cruise lines while they still sell other crap watches.
Not true in the case of Omega. On the Celebrity Reflection last December they had mini Omega and Breitling boutiques on board, separate stand-alone boutiques, managed by the normal jewelry/watch shop across the aisle which had a variety of brands, but nothing schlocky like Invicta. But they did sell crap watches in the general shop on the next deck down. I think these brands are trying to capture as much business as possible, people are captured on board on sea days and in the evenings, no harm in trying to sell watches before they get off loaded in St. Thomas, Aruba, St. Maarten, etc. Sales prices were 15% off MSRP and you got a voucher worth 5% for anything else in the various shops (booze, sunglasses, clothes, anything). The Omega setup, which has the same look as a normal Omega boutique, had about 75 watches on display and was open for browsing 24/7. Probably had about 10 Speedmasters of various kinds, plus examples from all their lines (Seamasters, Constellations, etc), it was a nice setup.

I've never seen new Rolex watches sold on any cruise ship, but Holland America does sell pre-owned Rolexes (mostly Datejusts) in one of their watch shops.
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Not true in the case of Omega. On the Celebrity Reflection last December they had mini Omega and Breitling boutiques on board, separate stand-alone boutiques, managed by the normal jewelry/watch shop across the aisle which had a variety of brands, but nothing schlocky like Invicta. But they did sell crap watches in the general shop on the next deck down. I think these brands are trying to capture as much business as possible, people are captured on board on sea days and in the evenings, no harm in trying to sell watches before they get off loaded in St. Thomas, Aruba, St. Maarten, etc. Sales prices were 15% off MSRP and you got a voucher worth 5% for anything else in the various shops (booze, sunglasses, clothes, anything). The Omega setup, which has the same look as a normal Omega boutique, had about 75 watches on display and was open for browsing 24/7. Probably had about 10 Speedmasters of various kinds, plus examples from all their lines (Seamasters, Constellations, etc), it was a nice setup.

I've never seen new Rolex watches sold on any cruise ship, but Holland America does sell pre-owned Rolexes (mostly Datejusts) in one of their watch shops.

Sounds like a recent development, and not side by side with Invicta like on most cruise ships.
 
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Lol, kidding about the Casio, but the cheap ass Swatches that are “limited” editions bring seriously stupid prices later on. Been looking into getting some next release for sure just to put up.
I was kidding too!
 
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As has been said very subjective, the pyramid is worked out from the labels at the side so it depends whether you agree that those labels make a watch what it is. Just a for instance they class all Rolex in one band, what about military or issued Rolex watches. Another point is, is that pyramid relevant to just the present or are they looking at the historic values and whether a make was technologically the leader in it's field at some point in the past.
Are they just going off current pricing.
 
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I'm pretty sure this pyramid on the first page is about a decade old or more, when Omegas greatest modern achievement was an ETA-based 2500 and they were in discussions about developing a crazy new design technique called a "ceramic bezel".

Omega have moved way up from being a TAG alternative.