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tyrantlizardrex
·May I proposed a new rule for our FS ads..
1. fully describe the rotation movement of the watch's hands when the watch is winded either in a clockwise/counter clockwise direction.
2. No Arsehattery.
Is My Collection Ruined?
2. No Arsehattery.
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lillatroll
·I agree with VetpsychWars, just tell him to return the watch, give him money back and don t let him near your watches again.
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watchknut
·May I proposed a new rule for our FS ads..
1. fully describe the rotation movement of the watch's hands when the crown is winded either in a clockwise/counter clockwise direction.
After this one, I am going to have a whole set of parameters before selling another watch! I am going to start asking the buyer questions!!!
In regards to a refund, at this point, I am happy with the amount I netted on the watch, and taking the return, and then going through the sales process again is not worth it...the watch has been ruined for me because of this experience. I am done with it.
Also, it is a niche watch, and the possible dial issue, which I would disclose now that it has been brought to my attention, may cause problems for possible buyers. One of the main collectors that would be interested reached out to me about the watch via Instagram, and I offered it to him at a price...which he did not respond, indicating that my number was a bit high. I made a mint on it, and am on the next one...
Luckily he was never near my collection, I am in NC and he is in FL.
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blubarb
··IG: #blubarb19I am so thankful and somewhat self-impressed that I did not say that, nor have I once in my entire years thought about this as a problem. My thoughts on rotation are generally confined to astronomical objects and wheels, thankfully. 🙄
Come to think of it, is it a hemispherical thing like the way water supposedly goes anti-clockwise down the plug hole in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere? I am in Oz. I will check in the morning to see which way my watches set Downunder. 👎 😲
Come to think of it, is it a hemispherical thing like the way water supposedly goes anti-clockwise down the plug hole in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere? I am in Oz. I will check in the morning to see which way my watches set Downunder. 👎 😲
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tyrantlizardrex
·Out of interest, what did you sell?
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Geo!
·You've got to remember if you wind the wrong way you could damage your sproggle shaft! 😉
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oddboy
·After this one, I am going to have a whole set of parameters before selling another watch! I am going to start asking the buyer questions!!!
That's not a bad idea. I have had sellers throw questions at me, in part I think to feel out how serious I am. I have no issues with this and it has never resulted in a deal fall through. I've even done the same as a seller making sure that a potential buyer acknowledges some of the deficiencies I noted in my own FS listing.. I wanted to be sure that the buyer was fully aware of some of the issues.
I agree with others, it seems like this guy is trying to pull something, or isn't as experienced as he'd like you to believe.
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cfw
·He already bought the watch, made a claim about the dial, which I decided to agree on because there is the possibility of repair, and I gave a partial refund.
He then texted me this morning with a video inquiring about the hand setting. I told him that I never really paid attention, and that a majority of my watches set in the same manner with the exception of the Speedies. He told me that all of the other watches were butchered, and I had a crappy watchmaker, and the only the Speedies were correct.
He said that after handling 100s of watches, he had never seen a watch set in this manner, and I that I was a liar to state that I didn't know that all watches were suppose to set clockwise to clockwise. That any serious watch collector would have major issues with watch that set in this manner.
I cannot make this up. I not joking.
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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFAs much an ass as this guy is, there are even bigger ones. Here are just 2.
This guy's French is truly astounding. 😲
This guy's French is truly astounding. 😲
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omegaman
·Thanks to the guy in the 2nd video i figured out why Napoleon Bonaparte kept holding his hand at his chest like that...
to show everybody his Batteck Flip wristwatch.
🤦
to show everybody his Batteck Flip wristwatch.
🤦
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donkii
·From my pint of view, the collection is pretty much ruined! 😉
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blubarb
··IG: #blubarb19He already bought the watch, made a claim about the dial, which I decided to agree on because there is the possibility of repair, and I gave a partial refund.
He then texted me this morning with a video inquiring about the hand setting. I told him that I never really paid attention, and that a majority of my watches set in the same manner with the exception of the Speedies. He told me that all of the other watches were butchered, and I had a crappy watchmaker, and the only the Speedies were correct.
He said that after handling 100s of watches, he had never seen a watch set in this manner, and I that I was a liar to state that I didn't know that all watches were suppose to set clockwise to clockwise. That any serious watch collector would have major issues with watch that set in this manner.
I cannot make this up. I not joking.
I am still laughing at this.
FYI, my collection is also ruined. 12 clockwise 11 anti-clockwise. Oh, what to do...
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OMTOM
·Sorry but my interests are with Omega movements much earlier than would interest most of you - and I’m certainly aware of the differences in crown setting direction - but this is of course the way Omega built them (no chance of a change during a visit to a watchmaker!).
For example, two of the earliest movements made by Omega were the Cal.30’’’ (ligne) in 1894, followed by the Cal.27’’’ in 1896. The Cal 30’’’ coincided with that very first Omega (the Cal.19’’’).
To stick with the same notation used above, the Cal.30’’’ ‘sets’ anticlockwise but its sister, the Cal.27’’’, sets clockwise (as does the Cal.19’’’ and those that followed it). All my Omega wristwatches set clockwise. Things were more complicated with the Cal.59‑8D - the early (original) version set clockwise but the later jump second/SCS version set anticlockwise.
Turning to chronographs, the earliest (Cal.19’’’ and then Cal.18’’’) set clockwise - but things changed (perhaps with the arrival of Lemania) because the Cal.39 (that’s interesting!), Cals.28.9, 33.3 AND 27 were anticlockwise. Well, the Cal.27 became a 321 - which is a Speedy: anticlockwise.
Over to you Speedies.
Sorry again - but I can’t imagine anything more anoraky than the above!
Tom
For example, two of the earliest movements made by Omega were the Cal.30’’’ (ligne) in 1894, followed by the Cal.27’’’ in 1896. The Cal 30’’’ coincided with that very first Omega (the Cal.19’’’).
To stick with the same notation used above, the Cal.30’’’ ‘sets’ anticlockwise but its sister, the Cal.27’’’, sets clockwise (as does the Cal.19’’’ and those that followed it). All my Omega wristwatches set clockwise. Things were more complicated with the Cal.59‑8D - the early (original) version set clockwise but the later jump second/SCS version set anticlockwise.
Turning to chronographs, the earliest (Cal.19’’’ and then Cal.18’’’) set clockwise - but things changed (perhaps with the arrival of Lemania) because the Cal.39 (that’s interesting!), Cals.28.9, 33.3 AND 27 were anticlockwise. Well, the Cal.27 became a 321 - which is a Speedy: anticlockwise.
Over to you Speedies.
Sorry again - but I can’t imagine anything more anoraky than the above!
Tom
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watchknut
·I am still laughing at this.
FYI, my collection is also ruined. 12 clockwise 11 anti-clockwise. Oh, what to do...
Anyone interested in these POS? I really don't know how they can ever grace my wrist again😀
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abrod520
·I'll take them off your hands (wrists?) for a heavily discounted price considering the horribly messed up setting mechanisms. I really shouldn't pay you at all for them, but I will. Only because I'm a nice guy 😉
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Canuck
·Sounds as though my lever set Brandt CCR (Omega) would really have baffled the guy. Sounds like he wouldn't know you-know-what from Shinola.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerYou did learn something today...that the person you are dealing with is either a total idiot, or is a scammer. Of course different watches set in different directions, and unless you are adding one more wheel in the setting area somewhere no one is changing the direction at service.
I am leaning more towards this person being a scammer than an idiot if he is as experienced a collector as you have indicated. It seems to me that he is making shit up to get watches cheaper or get refunds. I hope you will identify this person for all our benefit...
And yes common advice on forums is "buy the seller" but knowing your buyer well is just as important.
Cheers, Al
I am leaning more towards this person being a scammer than an idiot if he is as experienced a collector as you have indicated. It seems to me that he is making shit up to get watches cheaper or get refunds. I hope you will identify this person for all our benefit...
And yes common advice on forums is "buy the seller" but knowing your buyer well is just as important.
Cheers, Al
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MMMD
··unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologistWell, when you are held in such high esteem as a vintage dealer/collector that your watches are featured on Hodinkee's "Bring a Loupe", you are allowed to make such claims and belittle the mere mortals.
I feel so humbled. Guess my dreams of having one of my watches featured on a blog are shot...they might as well be redialed with an over polished case.
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