Interesting Longines on EBay

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Rumar89

·Jan 10, 2020

If you’re braver than me, this might be worth a shot. Seller out of Hungary with not a lot of feedback. I can’t tell if the dial is legit or not, something about the Longines font looks off (maybe?). But the subdial edges look sharp and I can see ridges. Price is right to go fishing if you’re a gambler.

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DirtyDozen12

·Jan 10, 2020

1. It is a redial.
2. The movement serial number dates the watch to the mid-late 1950's however the case-back markings suggest a watch from the late 1940's. I suspect a franken.

 

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DirtyDozen12

·Jan 10, 2020

Here is a case of the same reference for sale now: https://www.watchesulike.com/en/longines/13464-longines-steel-case-circa-1950-ref-23587.html

 

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Rumar89

·Jan 10, 2020

DirtyDozen12

1. It is a redial.
2. The movement serial number dates the watch to the mid-late 1950's however the case-back markings suggest a watch from the late 1940's. I suspect a franken.

Thank you. Later Longines are my focus, so I don’t know these earlier references as well.

Good example of go with your gut. If it feels wrong, it probably is.

 

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dx009

·Jan 10, 2020

I was about to post that I feel like it's a redial as well. For such an old watch that dial is far too clean and new-ish looking.

 

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Syrte

·Jan 10, 2020

Clean and newish looking is not synonymous with redial. This one has uneven indexes, a subdial presenting tell tale signs, and the logo font is wrong.

 

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alphabeta81

·Jan 10, 2020

dx009

I was about to post that I feel like it's a redial as well. For such an old watch that dial is far too clean and new-ish looking.

This type of comment is dangerous in the hobby, not just with Longines - when people say "a dial that looks too new and clean must be a redial" - to me, that simply is insulting to well preserved original watches. It's ok to say "I don't have the knowledge to tell apart clean looking original dials and clean looking redials" which is both more accurate and more fair. Just my 2 cents. Rant over!

 

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dx009

·Jan 11, 2020

Like-new clean dials of vintage watches are very rare and most of the time we're just talking about redials.

Also, keep in mind that we're talking about a watch that is approx. 70 years old. The chances of finding such a watch with the original factory clean dial are very slim and even then, most often the paint won't be white as chalk.

I didn't say that a clean dial means a redial all the time so please keep your assumptions to yourself if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

 

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Syrte

·Jan 11, 2020

You said very exactly:

dx009

For such an old watch that dial is far too clean and new-ish looking.

There’s no assumption involved in reading a blanket statement without any qualifiers.

 

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dx009

·Jan 11, 2020

Syrte

You said very exactly:


There’s no assumption involved in reading a blanket statement without any qualifiers.

Ok. 😀

 

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Adam2941

·Jan 12, 2020

It looks like a redial to me as well. Sparkly-looking, uneven paint surface, sloppy printing on the "2" in the 12, rounded edges at the sub-seconds recess, pretty sloppy 9 also. It just screams redial. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would not personally spend money on this one, or too much time thinking about it either. There are too many beautiful, original dials out there to look at.