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Interesting "Patek Philippe" Reference 130 Chronograph on eBay

  1. sathomasga Dec 28, 2022

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    It looks like this watch is going to go for a fair bit of money when the auction ends, and I'm a little surprised.

    The seller is up-front that the movement has been recased, but I think that's just the tip of the iceberg. The description seems a little too perfectly worded. "Authentic [...] dial" but no claim that it hasn't been refinished or repainted. The movement is an "authentic Valjoux 23" and, indeed it does look like an actual Valjoux 23, though not in great shape. But it's definitely not the Patek version, as those were rather heavily modified by PP. The "authentic Patek Philippe bridge" on the movement looks like a joke. I can't imagine PP releasing something that crude. In fact, that claim alone makes me doubt everything else in the description.

    To me, it's kind of a shame, as I think the watch looks lovely. If they'd slapped a generic "Chronographe Suisse" on the dial instead of "Patek Philippe," I'd definitely consider it.

    OTOH, the seller has tons of feedback and a 100% positive rating, so what do I know?

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  2. redpcar Dec 28, 2022

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    :eek:

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  3. NotAClue Dec 28, 2022

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    Weird spacing between numbers and different “2”’s shapes all over… :cautious:
     
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  4. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Dec 29, 2022

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    It's a fake. Should be reported.
     
  5. Dan S Dec 29, 2022

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    Crazy listing.
     
  6. fiberguy Dec 29, 2022

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    Frankenwatch??

    DIAL - AUTHENTIC PATEK PHILIPPE.

    POINTERS AUTHENTIC PATEK PHILIPPE.

    MOVEMENT - AUTHENTIC VALJOUX 23 WITH AUTHENTIC PATEK PHILIPPE BRIDGE.

    CASE - REPLACEMENT CASE.
     
  7. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 29, 2022

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    I've reported the listing.
     
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  8. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 29, 2022

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    Gone.
     
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  9. Syzygy Dec 29, 2022

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    I just tried....never mind, way to go Norm!
     
  10. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 29, 2022

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    How much shill bidding was there to get it up over $4K, or are people really that stupid?
     
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  11. fiberguy Dec 29, 2022

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    Stupid.
     
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  12. sathomasga Dec 29, 2022

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    And here I was thinking eBay only paid attention if the buyer complained. It's nice to know that they do take these things seriously, even if only occasionally.

    BTW, it is "gone" with extreme prejudice, as they say. I was watching it out of curiosity to see how high it would go. There's no trace of the item or auction anywhere in my account.
     
  13. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 29, 2022

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    Every eBay listing has a "Report this item" link right above the item number.
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    They actually do rely on users to police this kind of stuff.
     
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