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vicsdca
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From 1 to 10, 1 being an excellent redial, possibly an original dial and 10 the worst job you've ever seen, how would you rate this dial?
I'm guessing redial
From 1 to 10, 1 being an excellent redial, possibly an original dial and 10 the worst job you've ever seen, how would you rate this dial?
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ALinares
·10!!!
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ALinares
·Those numbers! I never saw that kind of numbers on Omega pie pan shape dial... But I will be happy to be refuted.
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoPie pan, what makes you think it's a pie pan? The numerals a perfectly correct. It has simply been refinished as a two-tone.
Actually a pretty decent job.
Actually a pretty decent job.
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ALinares
·ok
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connieseamaster
·Going with a 3, because while it's quite neat and clean, the grungy hands kind of ruin the look for me. Wabsabi all the things or none of the things, IMO. Refinishing the plating on the hands wouldn't be hard compared to the dial work.
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Claven2
·Decent redial. Omega has the replacement hands available, you omega account holder watchmaker can help you out.
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TimtimeIntl
·Hands are often refinished when sent off for refinishing the dial. Too bad this one has not replated the hands (unless they prepared them poorly) as nicer hands will make this a much better looking watch. They did a pretty nice job with the "two tone" on the dial though.
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JwRosenthal
·Those hands are usually available on eBay. The onyx filled ones are the hard ones to find- took me months.
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JwRosenthal
·I'll see what I can find on eBay. Thanks for the tip!
But redial aside, I agree with Norman that it’s done well and is attractive. I have always been of the mindset that a well done redial can give new life to a watch that may have otherwise been relegated to the parts bin. I can tell you as someone who bought a redial early on and had another redialed- I have a hard time wearing them and ended giving one away. Nothing bad about the watches themselves, just as I have become a more discriminating collector, I can’t get past the originality thing.
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JwRosenthal
·How can you be absolutely sure that they are genuine?
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JwRosenthal
·And an addendum to the eBay hunting- according to my watchmaker who has been in the business for 40 years- Omega and Rolex (among other makers) made watches in the millions- they also made parts in the millions and were easily obtained by most watchmakers back in the day. When they would place a parts order, it wasn’t uncommon to order several to justify the shipping cost- and to just have the popular parts on hand. Some parts also came in multi-packs. As they retire/die, the shops are closed and equipment/parts sold off by whomever is handling the estate.
If you look at a sellers history and they have a long run and deep inventory of NOS factory parts from many makers (Longines, Rolex, Omega, Bulova, LeCoultre) most likely they are real.
If it’s a vendor in the east that has 20 different listings for new hands- most likely those are fake
If you look at a sellers history and they have a long run and deep inventory of NOS factory parts from many makers (Longines, Rolex, Omega, Bulova, LeCoultre) most likely they are real.
If it’s a vendor in the east that has 20 different listings for new hands- most likely those are fake
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JwRosenthal
·That's great advice. I'll do a NOS search.
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JwRosenthal
·I believe they are referred to as “dauphine” hands or dagger hands (please correct me those who know more than me). Yours are solid, there was also a black stripe (onyx) and lume filled to match the dial indices. Make sure you get the solid like you have now. Searching by “Omega hands” throws the largest net, and you will sift though a lot of crap- but you have a better chance or finding your hands with a broader search than a narrower one- the fun is in the hunt
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Andy K
·what would make it a 9 and not a 10 ? Or a 6, 7 or 8 if we are trying to be objective?
We're the wrong people to ask this question. For the majority of us here on OF, it's binary: it either is a redial or it isn't. No sliding scale.
The overwhelming majority of redials were not some unscrupulous act intending to deceive, it was considered typical repair work for dials that were starting to show age or damage. Watchmakers provided the service and the paying customers either were unaware or expected it. Those paying customers were just normal watch wearers in the 40s through 70s, or even beyond. To that specific audience - the first owner of the watch in that era - there was a scale. The redial met their needs and expectations to varying degrees by hiding damage and attempting to approximate what the watch looked like the day they bought it.
Today, we are collectors, looking for good examples. Good examples have original dials, period. To an answer on the scale of 1 - 10 you'd have to go back in time and ask if the wearer was happy with the results.
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JwRosenthal
·We're the wrong people to ask this question. For the majority of us here on OF, it's binary: it either is a redial or it isn't. No sliding scale.
The overwhelming majority of redials were not some unscrupulous act intending to deceive, it was considered typical repair work for dials that were starting to show age or damage. Watchmakers provided the service and the paying customers either were unaware or expected it. Those paying customers were just normal watch wearers in the 40s through 70s, or even beyond. To that specific audience - the first owner of the watch in that era - there was a scale. The redial met their needs and expectations to varying degrees by hiding damage and attempting to approximate what the watch looked like the day they bought it.
Today, we are collectors, looking for good examples. Good examples have original dials, period. To an answer on the scale of 1 - 10 you'd have to go back in time and ask if the wearer was happy with the results.
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