Icelandic Scammer Update - Stefan Birgir Stefansson and Magnus Sigurdsson

Posts
2,597
Likes
5,656
I would suggest you do this in the local police station, having confirmed with the attending officer that the box hasn't been tampered with prior to opening
This is a tough one as how can you really confirm if something has (or hasn’t) been tampered with. Personally I’d video at the time of collection with a continuous video that shows the handover all the way to the opening. That then rules out the possibility that you tampered with it.
 
Posts
1,716
Likes
5,190
this is getting hot and this guy already became famous worldwide. let this serve as a warning to
potential scammer. kudos to watch scam detective OP.👍😉
 
Posts
2,008
Likes
3,386
this is getting hot and this guy already became famous worldwide. let this serve as a warning to
potential scammer. kudos to watch scam detective OP.👍😉

+1 😎
 
Posts
9,596
Likes
27,692
Someone's come forward to moderators on another forum, claiming to be Magnus SIgurdsson's son. Only made an account recently.

Stefan claims Magnus is his nephew, so it doesn't really add up (ages). Looks like the lies are just rolling on.


Late entry to this saga (good work everyone!), but this one caught my eye; if I remember correctly, wasn't one of the mail/user accounts this guy used before on one of the other fora also called something with "orka" in it's title? It certainly rings a bell...
 
Posts
1,232
Likes
6,386
Great point on opening it at the police station - I guess overall its hard to know because I could've already tampered with it. I think I'll just make it very clear in a video that it hasn't been tampered with.

In light of some information that's come forward; it appears Magnus Sigurdsson is Stefan Birgir Stefansson's cousin, and appears to be a real person. I will therefore add this name also to this thread. I believe both are involved.

Separately - another email update from the scammer below, I do not know if this is Magnus or Stefan.

The lies actually never end, even until after being caught out. The nerve to be say 'this is way over the line' is pretty funny.

 
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,982
It's like the old cliche' "you'll never do business in this town again" ...well, welcome to screwing members of the watch community.

In the south they have an expression- Come-uppin's is a bitch....well, here comes your come-uppins Magnus/Stefan
 
Posts
16,856
Likes
47,859
Getting lost a bit here.

So what is the name he wants taken down so desperately....
 
Posts
1,232
Likes
6,386
Getting lost a bit here.

So what is the name he wants taken down so desperately....
'Stefan Birgir Stefansson'
 
Posts
1,241
Likes
3,868
I believe this is his page as well...



https://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/stefan-birgir-stefansson/movies

It at least sounds like he has admitted to scamming “some” people out of money and watches. I can appreciate that portion of his emails and his offer to “make things right.”

As far as other people coming forward falsely claiming that they have been scammed by him too... is he really suggesting they are now trying to scam him?

“My, my how the turntables.” - Michael Scott
 
Posts
7,804
Likes
35,444
All those stupid mails from the rat scammer are par for the course. I was receiving exactly the same kind of non-sensical and desperate sounding excuses/outbursts once I had closed in and discovered the identity and telephone number of the low life a-hole who had ripped me off.

IMO a very good sign and I'd say keep up and increase the pressure you are applying until you get your watch back
Edited:
 
Posts
1,318
Likes
6,014
I wondered if that SBS (on RottenTomatoes) was the same guy as is being talked about here - he has a pop-art stuff shop on https://sbs.is/

One challenge is that in Iceland, all of the names that are being thrown around here are quite common, so there may well be several Stefans / Magnuses etc who are completely not involved.

I really hope the OP and others get their watches back unmolested...
Edited:
 
Posts
1,440
Likes
3,774
Applauding to you mate @guaranteed.rohu and to all who was involved in this investigation! This is why OF community is so strong!
Should be a new "scam busters" sub-forum!!!
 
Posts
1,776
Likes
4,256
That ram in the back of the bus looks all wrong. I think he should be sitting taller too.

Sorry Larry, you are wrong....it’s the guy on the banana, check out the wrist shot!
 
Posts
499
Likes
1,052
Sending the watch does not absolve him of his original crime. He is only sending it because he got found out.

To the gallows, I say!
 
Posts
37
Likes
190
Sending the watch does not absolve him of his original crime. He is only sending it because he got found out.

To the gallows, I say!

I agree, I am also out the 180$ it cost me to send the giant Omega box Express to Iceland. Not to mention the anxiety and all this trouble. I am deeply grateful for Robin's help and his sleuthing skills. I got pretty far on my own, but he took it to another level.

I will keep you all posted, if/when I receive my watch back and... gulp... what condition it will be in. The fake IWC quartz chrono he had originally sent me was smashed up pretty bad.

I'm still full of anxiety over all this. I know, I know, 1st world problems, a stolen watch. That said, I haven't slept well in over a week...
 
Posts
37
Likes
190
Further to my previous message.

For over 20 years, I have been buying, selling and mostly trading watches on-line, within this global watch community. I have built lasting, lifelong friendships over those years. Some of these friends I have traded with multiple times. In fact, I have been the recipient of lopsided deals and I have been on the flip-side of those lopsided deals as well. In my opinion, a deal is fair when both parties trading are happy. If that means trading a more expensive watch for something less expensive, but something I will enjoy, then that is fair in my books.

What hurts most is my confidence in this community is now shaken to its core. The scammer sounded so convincing. The pictures he sent me were spot on, with my own DM in the background in real time. He was exceptionally communicative and followed up every email. We had a string of over 40 messages before we even shipped anything. He knew his watches and even asked if I wanted the NATO strap he had already ordered and paid for from the Tudor AD.

Anyway, WUS, the OF, Robin and all of you have gone a very long way to restoring my faith in our community, but I cannot help but feel like I may fall prey again or worse, someone else may fall prey. I am sad that people are becoming victims. I know this is the world we live in, but for so long, the watch community has been an oasis away from "real life" for me. I do not post or participate as much as I used to. Heck, I barely BLOG anymore, though I plan on taking that up again very soon. That said, up until this happened, IG was the place for me, but even that feels hollow now...

Hopefully, if/when I get my watch back, I will feel better about everything. Until then, I feel like a part of me was stolen from me...

p.s. I just read all that I just wrote and I'm an idiot for writing it all... but what the hell, I will hit reply anyway....
 
Posts
1,071
Likes
2,165
I agree, I am also out the 180$ it cost me to send the giant Omega box Express to Iceland. Not to mention the anxiety and all this trouble. I am deeply grateful for Robin's help and his sleuthing skills. I got pretty far on my own, but he took it to another level.

[snip]

I'm still full of anxiety over all this. I know, I know, 1st world problems, a stolen watch. That said, I haven't slept well in over a week...
Have you contacted an Icelandic embassy or consulate? While I wouldn't expect them to get involved in every individual dispute, I don't imagine they like having one of their own tarnish the image of Icelanders. Who knows, maybe they'll compensate you with a gesture of goodwill?