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I Sold My 2021 3861 Speedy Hesalite Already!

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scapa scapa
Very interesting and detailed countervailing view.

With respect to the bolded in #5, I'm interested to know why you feel that your left-handedness (and not merely clumsiness or boomer-ness) might result in a higher likelihood of damaging your watch? As a fellow lefty who wears watches on the right hand (with pride) I don't feel like handedness has much to do with dings, scratches or even full-on breakages. Having to reach round a watch to set it, and not having a crown dig into the top of my hand, sure. Just wondering.
Supposedly left handers have a higher risk of injury due to accidents (5 times higher!) and death (2% higher) in a right handed world. See for example https://blog.massmutual.com/post/left-handers-day. Apparently it adds up to a significantly lower life expectancy, 66 vs 75 years.

It seems to make sense that wearing your watch on the arm less used (left arm for right handers) reduces the exposure of the watch to hitting something.
 
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Gruesome Gruesome
Apparently it adds up to a significantly lower life expectancy, 66 vs 75 years.

Other things add into that calculus, though, such as higher rates of mental health issues in lefties ...
 
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Taddyangle Taddyangle
In my opinion, the best bracelet Omega made is the 1450. It has the flat links inside and it tapers to 15.75mm. I can get a perfect fit. It is my all time favorite.


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THIS!!! Mine says hi!!

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revmiguel
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the new Speedmaster. This was really helpful.
 
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kcgunner kcgunner
Mind if I ask what your accuracy has been like?
Ok. After 24 h, Looks like +3s for the new sapphire speedy. +4s for the Apollo 50th.
 
Fabrice M
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Great write up. I am not sure I would agree about flattening the inside of the bracelet to copying Rolex, I don’t think it would matter. I am eager to try one, I think it is a beautiful watch, the only thing I worry about it it’s size. I always feel that anything over 40mm is too big.
 
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While I respect everyone's opinion, I generally like it when the inside of the bracelet is not flat. Yes, the flat provides more grip and prevents pinching, but it also wears much warmer because so much material is in contact with the wrist. Whenever the link is contoured, in a convex manner, it lets more air flow happen and the bracelet breathes.
 
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Interesting post! Seems like Omega has tried most bracelet permutations over time to try to find one that is universally liked (with little apparent success). My Apollo 25th Anniversary edition has the 1479 bracelet - pretty much looks like the new bracelet from the outside, but has the flat contour on the inside. And although the style has gone out of fashion, the clasp has 6 adjustment holes!

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Archer Archer
Suggested avatar image for you mate:

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I sill use these on my darts...

Jocky Wilson Shafts - British Darts
Like many, I’ve put a little weight on in lockdown. I’m not far off that!

I’ve got a set of Phil Taylor darts - not that they’ve helped. Maybe a set of jockys shafts, a cig and 5 pints while I’m playing will help!
 
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Some of the reasons you mentioned is exactly what I traded my Speedy, for a NOS Broad Arrow, 1957 42mm sapphire, and date, and auto 3313 Co-Axial, with upgraded rev c movement. Them put the Omega adjustable clasp from a Seamaster om it. Shocked the new model, doesn’t have an on the go, adjustable bracelet. That would of made it have to have, for a
 
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Like many, I’ve put a little weight on in lockdown. I’m not far off that!

I’ve got a set of Phil Taylor darts - not that they’ve helped. Maybe a set of jockys shafts, a cig and 5 pints while I’m playing will help!

The pint always helps, even if you aren't playing darts!!

Good to see some other players here - I used to play in a league way back - when Jocky was still in the mix, so mid-80's.

My average ended up in the middle of the pack, so I wasn't a even close to being top player even in my area. I can count the number of 180's I've ever had (including practice) on two hands - highest takeout (playing a neighbour) in a game was a 120...once!!
 
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Dimitar Adamski Dimitar Adamski
You are just a Rolex guy in the wrong forum, admit it ,lol 😀

that is what I thought as well, but nice of him to provide us with his list of grievances with the watch he had for a week!
 
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Wow that was quick. I just got the 3861 Friday and have not put on the timing machine yet but I would assume accuracy is within what you would expect. Not sure I rate these pieces if they are off by seconds. The bracelet is much different but not unlike the vintage speedy bracelets in how it tapers. I do agree the clasp adjustment is not what I would have expected and the different width bothered me but the adjustment is so small, I am not sure how many people will actually use that to adjust the size. The stepped dial is a great update. Once I get my 1861 back from service I can do a better comparison. Wouldn’t be fair to compare to other speedys I have. Surprised you took a loss as they are sold out at a lot of boutiques so you should be able to get close to what you paid. At least you tried it.
 
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Spikedlee Spikedlee
For me, when purchasing a watch, there are a few important factors I think about as part of my decision making process:

1.) Aesthetics - do I like the way the watch looks
2.) Fitment/Comfort - how well does the watch fit on my 6.75" wrist and how comfortable does it feel?
3.) Accuracy - as a higher dollar purchase, I am expecting a certain threshold of accuracy based on that price(Seiko vs. Rolex)
4.) Brand Equity - where the brand ranks in the market and the price point associated with that rank

I have been flipping watches for well over a decade now because there was always a deviation up or down on the above 4 factors. As my income grew over the years, so did my budget for high end timepieces. I will tell you guys now that I already own the Rolex 116500LN white Daytona and 126710BLRO GMT-Master Pepsi. These two pieces definitely hit a top score in all 4 areas above.

Dunno, for brand equity you wouldn't need to buy it to suss out that a Daytona is more easily flippable, which has little to do with quality or provenance, but created through artificial scarcity (brilliant move) and smart endorsements. For accuracy there are far superior technical alternatives out there, like a Grand Seiko spring drive chronograph (more accurate too).

Highly doubt they didn't make the bracelets flat so they wouldn't copy Rolex. Flat looks more dressy, and doesn't really go with the aesthetic of a tool watch. Appreciate the breakdown and your thoughts though.
 
wouter van wijk
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thanks for the great write up.. 👍
I also don't like the aggressive taper, but what I dislike even more are the stripes and above all the fugly buttons on the clasp🤮

Your story reminds me a bit of buying a new 1861 and having buyers remorse within the first week. I got so frustrated about the lack of cream colour on the lume plots. The whole watch was just too new and I really hated the clinical white look of the luminova and the stupid big box was to me completely useless. These kind of boxes end up in the shed or in the attick. In the old days Omega used to make some nice silver boxes..🥰

For me newer isn't always better. Mechanical watches have become sort of an anachronism. When I need to check the time I can also use my iPhone or get a smartwatch. For me vintage watches are the true ones that tell a great story, not their modern successors. Sorry but I am a sucker for vintage.

So I personally prefer a watch that shows some scar tissue or creamy patina, that really stood the test of time and has some honest character. When you explain to a noob about a vintage watch thats actually 50 years old and still looks stunning, thats way cooler and more impressive than telling the story with their modern successor according to my honest opinion.

But on the other hand I can really appreciate modern watches too when they are perfectly executed, tick all of the boxes are refreshing and preferable have a new design.
 
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