Hi everybody, Today I bought this 2505-20 (what does "20" means?)
I have another questions
1) The dial is original but it seems to have been cleaned, may be?
Are the markers and needles in this reference made of gold?
All the markers are in place, but at 12 there is golden paint, is this so or a gold numeral is missing?
2) The crown is not original, if somebody happens to know the part number I'll be grateful
3) I just measured the case with a ruler ( my gauge disappeared a couple of weeks ago with my 3 old son, a future magician!), I know that a ruler in not precise, but I have the feeling the case is not 38mm, just a bit less, can it be? because I thought it was a Jumbo
Movement is 265 and serial 12,xxx,xxx

Any information is welcome!
Kind regards

 

https://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-details/14543/

My understanding is that the "-20" refers to the 20th iteration of case reference 2505. Experts, correct me if I'm wrong.

1) Dial looks off. Leaning toward re-dial, but need better pictures. I'm not sure if the indexes ("markers and needles") are solid gold. The style of the "12" is called a "mirrored index" and is a common feature of 1940s Omega dials.
2) Don't know the part number. You can probably find vintage crowns on the open market (eBay, third party suppliers, etc), but Omega may produce a modern replacement crown.
3) Diameter is 38 mm excluding the crown.

Regards,

Brandon

 

Judging from these poor pictures IMO the watch including the dial looks OK. I don´t think it is a re-dial.

Yes, it might be a little less than 38 mm - maybe 37,5 mm afaik - this was a common diameter

 

the hands is too long...cmiiw

 

no, they are perfectly matching

 

I see some imperfections that make me think about redial.



Better pics needed

 

This is just nitpicking....

the small imperfections in lining up with the markers is a common problem with this kind of dials. IMO the indices are not rivetted and thus not removeable - they are somewhat embossed (don´t have a better expression for it).
So printing the hashes of the minute track on these dials with the domed indices present must really have been a pain in the ... for the manufacturer

but to be honest - a final verdict is not possible given the poor quality of the photos

 

You are probably right, but I've never seen so many imperfections in the same dial (we're talking about Omega).
Anyway better pics are for sure necessary.


BTW also the glass can mislead.

 

For the diameter you'd better read this :
https://omegaforums.net/threads/2505-10-pointers-and-opinions-welcome.39932/

IMO the dial is refinished.

 

Hi everbody! sorry for the pics!, I've made new ones, not so easy to make good ones with the reflections, (at least for me..)
Hope this helps, thanks

 

Thanks Omegastar!

 

Thanks Brandon, do you know where to get the crown specs??

 

Hi Mac!, I?ve got a gauge today, it is less than 38mm, I read 37.4

 

Bubba, the glass is a pain in...impossible to get a quality pic, let's see if these ones help. thanks

 

Great pic!, same dial

 

There's some information in this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/2505-crown-specifications.62023/

 

Thanks!

 

any idea if it is redial or not?

 

At least the chapter ring has been poorly reprinted. The hash marks for the 4-5-7 o'clocks are very close to the arrow indices, while those at 11 & 12 o'clocks are quite farther away; and those at 2 & 4 are not aligned with the indices at all. That plus the poor printing quality compared to the better example posted above indicate suboptimal originality.