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  1. tentate

    tentate Sep 14, 2017

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    Hi everybody, Today I bought this 2505-20 (what does "20" means?)
    I have another questions
    1) The dial is original but it seems to have been cleaned, may be?
    Are the markers and needles in this reference made of gold?
    All the markers are in place, but at 12 there is golden paint, is this so or a gold numeral is missing?
    2) The crown is not original, if somebody happens to know the part number I'll be grateful
    3) I just measured the case with a ruler ( my gauge disappeared a couple of weeks ago with my 3 old son, a future magician!), I know that a ruler in not precise, but I have the feeling the case is not 38mm, just a bit less, can it be? because I thought it was a Jumbo
    Movement is 265 and serial 12,xxx,xxx

    Any information is welcome!
    Kind regards
     
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  2. heavenscloud

    heavenscloud Sep 14, 2017

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    https://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-details/14543/

    My understanding is that the "-20" refers to the 20th iteration of case reference 2505. Experts, correct me if I'm wrong.

    1) Dial looks off. Leaning toward re-dial, but need better pictures. I'm not sure if the indexes ("markers and needles") are solid gold. The style of the "12" is called a "mirrored index" and is a common feature of 1940s Omega dials.
    2) Don't know the part number. You can probably find vintage crowns on the open market (eBay, third party suppliers, etc), but Omega may produce a modern replacement crown.
    3) Diameter is 38 mm excluding the crown.

    Regards,

    Brandon
     
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  3. mac_omega

    mac_omega Sep 14, 2017

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    Judging from these poor pictures IMO the watch including the dial looks OK. I don´t think it is a re-dial.

    Yes, it might be a little less than 38 mm - maybe 37,5 mm afaik - this was a common diameter
     
  4. hendra324

    hendra324 dealer who would rather use aftermarket parts Sep 14, 2017

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    the hands is too long...cmiiw
     
  5. mac_omega

    mac_omega Sep 15, 2017

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    no, they are perfectly matching
     
  6. bubba48

    bubba48 Sep 15, 2017

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    I see some imperfections that make me think about redial.

    [​IMG]

    Better pics needed
     
  7. mac_omega

    mac_omega Sep 15, 2017

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    This is just nitpicking....

    the small imperfections in lining up with the markers is a common problem with this kind of dials. IMO the indices are not rivetted and thus not removeable - they are somewhat embossed (don´t have a better expression for it).
    So printing the hashes of the minute track on these dials with the domed indices present must really have been a pain in the ... for the manufacturer

    but to be honest - a final verdict is not possible given the poor quality of the photos
     
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  8. bubba48

    bubba48 Sep 15, 2017

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    You are probably right, but I've never seen so many imperfections in the same dial (we're talking about Omega).
    Anyway better pics are for sure necessary.


    BTW also the glass can mislead.
     
  9. omegastar

    omegastar Sep 15, 2017

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  10. tentate

    tentate Sep 15, 2017

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    Hi everbody! sorry for the pics!, I've made new ones, not so easy to make good ones with the reflections, (at least for me..)
    Hope this helps, thanks IMG_9129.jpg IMG_9130.jpg IMG_9132.jpg IMG_9134.jpg IMG_9136.jpg IMG_9137.jpg IMG_9139.jpg IMG_9141.jpg IMG_9145.jpg IMG_9146.jpg Sin título-1.jpg Sin título-2.jpg Sin título-3.jpg Sin título-5.jpg
     
  11. tentate

    tentate Sep 15, 2017

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  12. tentate

    tentate Sep 15, 2017

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    Thanks Brandon, do you know where to get the crown specs??
     
  13. tentate

    tentate Sep 15, 2017

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    Hi Mac!, I?ve got a gauge today, it is less than 38mm, I read 37.4
     
  14. tentate

    tentate Sep 15, 2017

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    Bubba, the glass is a pain in...impossible to get a quality pic, let's see if these ones help. thanks
     
  15. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 15, 2017

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  16. tentate

    tentate Sep 15, 2017

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    Great pic!, same dial
     
  17. heavenscloud

    heavenscloud Sep 15, 2017

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  18. tentate

    tentate Sep 16, 2017

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  19. tentate

    tentate Sep 16, 2017

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    any idea if it is redial or not?
     
  20. TNTwatch

    TNTwatch Sep 17, 2017

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    At least the chapter ring has been poorly reprinted. The hash marks for the 4-5-7 o'clocks are very close to the arrow indices, while those at 11 & 12 o'clocks are quite farther away; and those at 2 & 4 are not aligned with the indices at all. That plus the poor printing quality compared to the better example posted above indicate suboptimal originality.