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How to adjust bracelet on 1991 constellation.
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Taavetti
·Hello Isidor91. I have the same question, and have not been able to find any answers. Only some related to the next model, but that bracelet is very different. Have you found any information elsewhere on the internet?
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bsowers34
·T TaavettiHello Isidor91. I have the same question, and have not been able to find any answers. Only some related to the next model, but that bracelet is very different. Have you found any information elsewhere on the internet?
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·Thank you for your prompt reply bsowers34.
I have a good tool for ejecting the pins, so I don't think that is going to be a problem. But I am a bit confused about the advice on the YouTube video (
) where it states that:
"After ensuring proper orientation of the link cover and link pin, insert the pin into the side which it came off. The pin will be going into the link against the direction of the arrow found underside of the link."
Now this video is for the next generation of Constellation ("The Double Eagle"), but since this is my only Omega that I now need to adjust I was wondering if it is the same also with earlier bracelet construction (or Omegas in general). Usually, in other brands, the pin comes out in the direction of the arrow and is inserted back in following the arrow as well.
BTW did you break your pin while ejecting or re-installing it?
I have a good tool for ejecting the pins, so I don't think that is going to be a problem. But I am a bit confused about the advice on the YouTube video (
"After ensuring proper orientation of the link cover and link pin, insert the pin into the side which it came off. The pin will be going into the link against the direction of the arrow found underside of the link."
Now this video is for the next generation of Constellation ("The Double Eagle"), but since this is my only Omega that I now need to adjust I was wondering if it is the same also with earlier bracelet construction (or Omegas in general). Usually, in other brands, the pin comes out in the direction of the arrow and is inserted back in following the arrow as well.
BTW did you break your pin while ejecting or re-installing it?
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bsowers34
·T TaavettiThank you for your prompt reply bsowers34.
I have a good tool for ejecting the pins, so I don't think that is going to be a problem. But I am a bit confused about the advice on the YouTube video () where it states that:
"After ensuring proper orientation of the link cover and link pin, insert the pin into the side which it came off. The pin will be going into the link against the direction of the arrow found underside of the link."
Now this video is for the next generation of Constellation ("The Double Eagle"), but since this is my only Omega that I now need to adjust I was wondering if it is the same also with earlier bracelet construction (or Omegas in general). Usually, in other brands, the pin comes out in the direction of the arrow and is inserted back in following the arrow as well.
BTW did you break your pin while ejecting or re-installing it?
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Puma_135o
·I've had the same problem and it was solved by a watchmaker with an hammer. With an assistant holding the watch so that the hits would not pass to the movement. Scary.
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·Thank you again for the answer bsowers34. It seems the mystery about the direction the pin should be inserted back in remains a mystery... Unfortunately there is no Omega AD in my home town, so I have to try to manage this type of problems some other way.
One would think that the place where people have wide knowledge about Omegas would be the Omega Forum, but the fact that Isidor91 posted already in 2019 this same question as I did, and still no-one had answered him is a bit disappointing, considering there should be a wide base of these 90's Constellations owned around the world.
One would think that the place where people have wide knowledge about Omegas would be the Omega Forum, but the fact that Isidor91 posted already in 2019 this same question as I did, and still no-one had answered him is a bit disappointing, considering there should be a wide base of these 90's Constellations owned around the world.
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bsowers34
·T TaavettiThank you again for the answer bsowers34. It seems the mystery about the direction the pin should be inserted back in remains a mystery... Unfortunately there is no Omega AD in my home town, so I have to try to manage this type of problems some other way.
One would think that the place where people have wide knowledge about Omegas would be the Omega Forum, but the fact that Isidor91 posted already in 2019 this same question as I did, and still no-one had answered him is a bit disappointing, considering there should be a wide base of these 90's Constellations owned around the world.
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Taavetti
·I've had the same problem and it was solved by a watchmaker with an hammer. With an assistant holding the watch so that the hits would not pass to the movement. Scary.
On most most brands the pin goes back in the direction of the arrow, but I just wanted to check this one thing about Omega bracelets instead of trial-and-error because of the ambiguous information available (see the video I linked). Funny that there are videos and other info about older and newer Omega bracelets, but not about this quite common '90s model.
So you have this same style '90s Constellation? Did you notice which way they inserted the pin back, to the direction of the arrow or from the other side?
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·I think a good jeweler could handle it.
thank you for your answers.
But this is not Agony Aunt's column, this is a forum for a specific brand of watches.
I quote Isidor91's original question: "Hi, i bought a used 1991 constellation. I can’t figure out how to adjust the bracelet on it. Could someone help? Anyone have any experience with these types of bracelets? Videos or directions would be appreciated. Thank you."
It is not really helping to answer these businesslike, sincere questions with advice like "take it to the shop", it is more like insulting the intelligence of the questioner. So if you do not have any experience with these types of bracelets, videos or directions to share, this discussion is merely waste of bandwidth.
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Evitzee
·The original post is almost six years old, the OP never came back so let's assume he got his watch sized properly. You drive the pin out in the direction of the arrow, and reinsert it after sizing in the same direction. This is a 'pin and collar' arrangement and it usually doesn't matter which direction you insert the pin, but since Omega put the arrows on the links you should follow that arrow. Sometimes a hammer and a drift pin is the best way to get the pin out, especially if the watch has some age on it and the bracelet has accumulated bits of mung along the way. I try to do all bracelet sizing myself, it's something a hobbyist should know how to do, there are too many horror stories of ham fisted dealers making a mess of a bracelet or lugs. Do it yourself and you'll know it is done right.
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Puma_135o
·T TaavettiThat kind of treatment seems to be the "standard operation procedure" at many jewelers and gift shops. To avoid these scary moments I usually do these minor adjustments myself.
On most most brands the pin goes back in the direction of the arrow, but I just wanted to check this one thing about Omega bracelets instead of trial-and-error because of the ambiguous information available (see the video I linked). Funny that there are videos and other info about older and newer Omega bracelets, but not about this quite common '90s model.
So you have this same style '90s Constellation? Did you notice which way they inserted the pin back, to the direction of the arrow or from the other side?
Yes, I have the same style Constellation. Sorry I didn’t notice. I tried myself but it was some years ago and when the watchmaker did it, there was the second person covering the “action”…
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·The original post is almost six years old, the OP never came back so let's assume he got his watch sized properly. You drive the pin out in the direction of the arrow, and reinsert it after sizing in the same direction. This is a 'pin and collar' arrangement and it usually doesn't matter which direction you insert the pin, but since Omega put the arrows on the links you should follow that arrow. Sometimes a hammer and a drift pin is the best way to get the pin out, especially if the watch has some age on it and the bracelet has accumulated bits of mung along the way. I try to do all bracelet sizing myself, it's something a hobbyist should know how to do, there are too many horror stories of ham fisted dealers making a mess of a bracelet or lugs. Do it yourself and you'll know it is done right.
Just to clarify: By saying "...and reinsert it after sizing in the same direction" and "since Omega put the arrows on the links you should follow that arrow" do you mean that when the pin comes out in the direction of the blue arrow (see pic) it is pushed back in the direction of the green arrow like in the second picture, noting the the position of groove on the pin (marked with anilin/red dot.) BTW do you know what exactly is the function of this groove?
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·What makes you think that? Common sense says that if the pin comes out one side, it can obviously go back in that same side. Also, pay attention to the shape and orientation of the pin itself.
If the pin was just an even diameter rod, then the direction would surely not matter, but it is the groove in the pin that has made me thinking of all this, what is the purpose of it? Is is supposed to fit some "knuckle" inside the bushing or what? (Or is it just a practical joke to confuse hobbyist and induce escalation of these threads... 😀)
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaThe pin/tube style of fastener is well known and used by many brands.
The arrows on the bracelet indicate the direction that the pin should be pushed out.
The pin should also be inserted in the same direction/orientation that it was removed.
The reason is that the longer part of the pin without the groove allows the pin to align the links of the bracelet before the groove seats in neck on the tube.
The arrows on the bracelet indicate the direction that the pin should be pushed out.
The pin should also be inserted in the same direction/orientation that it was removed.
The reason is that the longer part of the pin without the groove allows the pin to align the links of the bracelet before the groove seats in neck on the tube.
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·The pin/tube style of fastener is well known and used by many brands.
The arrows on the bracelet indicate the direction that the pin should be pushed out.
The pin should also be inserted in the same direction/orientation that it was removed.
The reason is that the longer part of the pin without the groove allows the pin to align the links of the bracelet before the groove seats in neck on the tube.
