How do you guys do this?

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Still loved my dial though on these beauties... Though, if there's a way to restore the condition of a vintage watch into how the way it looks when it was produced, that would be fantastic, for the watch and the owner that inherited them, I guess?
Those actually have nice patina- and I hate dial patina.
You can have them restored, there are several well respected dial restorers who will redo the dial- but results can vary and you will lose value on the watch. Many act like there isn’t an alternative to a patina’d dial- there is, it’s just not one that many collectors would want.
As I had mentioned previously, I had a watch redialed, and I think it was actually a very nice job- but I knew it wasn’t original and it bothered me- so I sold the watch with full disclosure and won’t do that again.
 
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I did the lemon juice trick on two dials, the first was a lady Seamaster that was orange from years of funk- it removed the lume and lacquer but the lettering was fine and it came out like a gem. The second was a disaster- a water damaged Silver dialed Seamaster that had a modeled finish but wasn’t horrible- the lettering floated right off- it was awful. That one got redialed and eventually sold.
I have a good friend who does my spot cleaning (the Burgeron sticky swabs and Rodico) and relumes hands for me. It’s amazing how well a light cleaning can remove the funk, but you really have to know what you’re doing, go slowly and never be aggressive. This is not something to do on a watch you care about unless you are a total pro and go in with realistic expectations.
Would you upload the before after result?
I wanna know what kind of dial you're working with.
Btw,
I'm a patient man, I mean, I was making a balance staff from scratch back at the school for 8 hours straight. 😵‍💫
Can't go home till you finished the task. 😵‍💫
Must get the measurements correct with tolerance like 0.12 microns.
One rushing, one measurement incorrect then you gotta do it all over again. It was when I discovered myself to be a little masochistic, as the opposite I was enjoying it.
 
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I'm a patient man, I mean, I was making a balance staff from scratch back at the school for 8 hours straight. 😵‍💫
Can't go home till you finished the task. 😵‍💫
Must get the measurements correct with tolerance like 0.12 microns.
One rushing, one measurement incorrect then you gotta do it all over again. It was when I discovered myself to be a little masochistic as the opposite I was enjoying it.
Great advice - if you don't mind me asking - how much would it cost for a professional quality redial? Clearly this should always be a last resort but useful to know nonetheless 😀
Yes, I want to know how was the redial result?
 
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Great advice - if you don't mind me asking - how much would it cost for a professional quality redial? Clearly this should always be a last resort but useful to know nonetheless 😀
The redial on the one I had done was through a watchmaker (he didn’t tell me where he got it redialed) and it was around $200. It was- decent, but not perfect of course.
Frankly, the ones you posted are lovely as-is and if the patina bothers you, then sell them as-is to someone who will appreciate them and hunt for vintage perfection. Pristine dialed do come up but be prepared to fight for it and pay a premium- IMO, the premium is worth it to know I have what I want.
 
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The redial on the one I had done was through a watchmaker (he didn’t tell me where he got it redialed) and it was around $200. It was- decent, but not perfect of course.
Frankly, the ones you posted are lovely as-is and if the patina bothers you, then sell them as-is to someone who will appreciate them and hunt for vintage perfection. Pristine dialed do come up but be prepared to fight for it and pay a premium- IMO, the premium is worth it to know I have what I want.
Awh, thank you! No, I don't bother with these patinas... I was mainly curious about how did some of you guys done it. So... What did you do to the lemons again? You dip the dial to the pure lemon juice? Or you dilute them? Did you re-lacquered them?
Oh yes... I know about that. Pristine dials is the oomph!
 
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Here is the before and after- I opted for a black dial when it was refinished. After the crystal came off I saw how modeled the finish was which is what made me want it redialed. In hindsight, it wasn’t really that bad and I should have just left it alone...but I was a newbie then
 
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In terms of a careful cleaning- this is one of my favorite examples of what can be achieved by someone with a delicate touch without any damage to original finishes.

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Here is the before and after- I opted for a black dial when it was refinished. After the crystal came off I saw how modeled the finish was which is what made me want it redialed. In hindsight, it wasn’t really that bad and I should have just left it alone...but I was a newbie then
Apart from the font choice for automatic and the fact that he went and bent the applied omega, i think they're pretty good result for a redial/"refurbished" dial.
I think omega offers to refurbished the dial as well if I recall when I worked there, though no customer ever tried the service so I did not know how was the results comes up... Does anyone ever tried their dial refurbishing service?
 
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In terms of a careful cleaning- this is one of my favorite examples of what can be achieved by someone with a delicate touch without any damage to original finishes.

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Did he relumed it? It's all green....
And polished his hands as well? Or just exchanged them? Do they re-lacquered the dial?
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I was mainly curious about how did some of you guys done it. So... What did you do to the lemons again? You dip the dial to the pure lemon juice? Or you dilute them?

I use this recipe for all my dial cleaning.

10 drops of natural spring water
10 drops of lemon juice
3 unicorn tears
 
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I use this recipe for all my dial cleaning.

10 drops of natural spring water
10 drops of lemon juice
3 unicorn tears
Should I add sirens singing and a banshee cries into the mix?
 
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Soaking in polident is pretty standard for reselling pocket watch dials... yup, I think reply #1 was all this thread needed. (Except for Standy, thanks for the laugh!)
 
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Soaking in polident is pretty standard for reselling pocket watch dials... yup, I think reply #1 was all this thread needed. (Except for Standy, thanks for the laugh!)
Pocket watch dials are quite sturdy compared to the peasant wrist watches from 40s to 60s I guess, and even worse on 70s up...
 
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fact that he went and bent the applied omega.

I noticed the same thing, although it seems to be slightly bent on the right side in the before pictures. It’s slightly more uniform in the after pics by having both sides bent 😕
 
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Did he relumed it? It's all green....
And polished his hands as well? Or just exchanged them? Do they re-lacquered the dial?
The Rolex is all original except for the replacement of the second hand with a NOS one. The dial and hands were covered in a thin layer of funk that made them look lifeless- that’s what was underneath.
 
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The Rolex is all original except for the replacement of the second hand with a NOS one. The dial and hands were covered in a thin layer of funk that made them look lifeless- that’s what was underneath.
I wonder if he made tutorial about that...
 
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I noticed the same thing, although it seems to be slightly bent on the right side in the before pictures. It’s slightly more uniform in the after pics by having both sides bent 😕
I'll probably use a coil removal tool to remove the logo though compared to what that guy used to remove the logo
 
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The topic of dial cleaning & refinishing has been covered in countless threads and the opinions are just as varied. Some say don’t touch anything, some say gentle cleaning with the proper tools is acceptable, some say do the full Monty. Bottom line, it’s your watch and do what you want. But be aware that any time you touch that dial there is risk of damage- serious damage, so be prepared for a total loss if you attempt any form of cleaning.
 
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The topic of dial cleaning & refinishing has been covered in countless threads and the opinions are just as varied. Some say don’t touch anything, some say gentle cleaning with the proper tools is acceptable, some say do the full Monty. Bottom line, it’s your watch and do what you want. But be aware that any time you touch that dial there is risk of damage- serious damage, so be prepared for a total loss if you attempt any form of cleaning.
From what I gather here... I don't think I'll touch the dial ever... Even lemons are damaging the dial. I've seen some put the dial into a hot water and results are quite horrifying... 😲
 
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Rodico was used to clean this:

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