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mk2rick
·i went to melb expecting to receive some hate too.. but turns out people there were quite chill.. However, this was before Italy started exploding with all these new cases... becareful!
hey Asian travelers in Europe...
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lindo
·It is more likely that this pandemic will get worse before it gets better, so overseas holidays should be avoided if you can until the future is clearer.
As to the potential for discrimination against Asian origin or descent travellers, there will always be some - but the greater risk will be that your holiday be come apart for quarantine reasons. All that needs to happen is for the plane you are on to include a person who shows infection symptoms on the flight to trigger an isolation response from authorities at your destination that could see you in quarantine for a couple of weeks.
We are booked for travel via Turkey into Uzbekistan, Kazakstan and Kyrgystan in August, which seems a long way off right now, but our chances of going are diminishing with every new report of outbreaks.
As to the potential for discrimination against Asian origin or descent travellers, there will always be some - but the greater risk will be that your holiday be come apart for quarantine reasons. All that needs to happen is for the plane you are on to include a person who shows infection symptoms on the flight to trigger an isolation response from authorities at your destination that could see you in quarantine for a couple of weeks.
We are booked for travel via Turkey into Uzbekistan, Kazakstan and Kyrgystan in August, which seems a long way off right now, but our chances of going are diminishing with every new report of outbreaks.
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Tim L
·I need your honest opinions here. We planned an epic family vacay in May with my 8yo daughter’s first time in Europe. We’ll visit all the hot spots and doing all the traveler stuff. We’ll be in Paris, Florence, Venice, Barcelona, Athen, and Santorini.
My daughter read and studied so much of these destinations. This is her trip! I need this trip to go well.
With the explosion of the Corona virus, fear and violen toward Asian travelers increased. Honestly, I don’t care if a taxi driver sees a trio of Asians and decided to drive off. I can spin that to explain it to an 8yo. No problem. But it would be harder to be refused service in a restaurant or someone hurls racial slurs or started any funny business— this Happened to a colleague recently, but he was in a pub, at night. We will avoid all drinking holes, all together.
My question to you is: shall we postpone the trip to next year? I don’t want her first trip to the “magical” Venice be colored by an angry nut job looking to spew hate. There are more and more of those idiots everyday, everywhere.
And of course this thread has photos. Here is my trio.
trilogy speedy, dark side of the moon, 42mm PO
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Tim L
·Hi,
My first thought is that you might be vacationing in the next quarantine spot. I saw on the BBC yesterday that 10 places in Italy are now on emergency lock down. If you could put the trip off by a year, that might be prudent.
My first thought is that you might be vacationing in the next quarantine spot. I saw on the BBC yesterday that 10 places in Italy are now on emergency lock down. If you could put the trip off by a year, that might be prudent.
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NGO1
·Plan B and hold off on travel, make sure you can cancel without penalty.
thanks Jim, hoping to get back our flights. Hotels is a loss. Wife doesn’t believe in paying $3 extra so I can have a chance to change her plans. Hoping to reschedule for next year stay, so I won’t be at total loss.
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gostang9
·We planned an epic family vacay... We’ll visit all the hot spots and doing all the traveler stuff. We’ll be in Paris, Florence, Venice, Barcelona, Athen, and Santorini
...We are booked for travel via Turkey into Uzbekistan, Kazakstan and Kyrgystan...
@ngo516 - I fully understand your desire for this “epic” family vacation. We have been fortunate over the past 5 years to do separate trips to Paris, Sydney, Amalfi/Naples/Rome, London, Maui, Athen/Naxos/Santorini. Our daughter is now 14 and doesn’t want to do anymore vacations so she can work and be with friends. I’m very grateful we did the trips when we did.
As for your concerns, I would put more weight into considerations of what may happen with Coronavirus and not so much the racism. From what I’ve seen and heard throughout Europe on business trips would suggest there is a much deeper resentment toward Islamic immigrants built up over many years. Just my opinion...
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Rochete
·From Barcelona here. Not because of racism (this place is full of resident Chinese) but out of health safety concerns I would most certainly postpone the trip one year. Too much uncertainty over what's going to happen in the next months.
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·Cute animals
Plenty of open space
No traffic
Great Beaches
Have a spare shrimp to throw on the Barbie
Australasian is even a word down under 😎
Plenty of open space
No traffic
Great Beaches
Have a spare shrimp to throw on the Barbie
Australasian is even a word down under 😎
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaForgot to add
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Motik
·Lots of Asian residents in Paris (and France in general) as well since the massive arrival of Vietnamese refugees in the 70s. Asian restaurants are everywhere. If you don't go around wearing those funny masks on your mouth and nose nobody will be able to even know you're tourists.
Always funny to see how one's place is seen from abroad through the media 😀
Always funny to see how one's place is seen from abroad through the media 😀
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glownyc
·I wouldn't risk it with all the unknowns about how this virus is going to play out. Your daughter sounds mature enough to understand. Could be a good opportunity for a basic lesson on discrimination faced by many minority groups.
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Jeeper
·I need your honest opinions here. We planned an epic family vacay in May with my 8yo daughter’s first time in Europe. We’ll visit all the hot spots and doing all the traveler stuff. We’ll be in Paris, Florence, Venice, Barcelona, Athen, and Santorini.
My daughter read and studied so much of these destinations. This is her trip! I need this trip to go well.
With the explosion of the Corona virus, fear and violen toward Asian travelers increased. Honestly, I don’t care if a taxi driver sees a trio of Asians and decided to drive off. I can spin that to explain it to an 8yo. No problem. But it would be harder to be refused service in a restaurant or someone hurls racial slurs or started any funny business— this Happened to a colleague recently, but he was in a pub, at night. We will avoid all drinking holes, all together.
My question to you is: shall we postpone the trip to next year? I don’t want her first trip to the “magical” Venice be colored by an angry nut job looking to spew hate. There are more and more of those idiots everyday, everywhere.
And of course this thread has photos. Here is my trio.
trilogy speedy, dark side of the moon, 42mm PO
I can only imagine that it is a very very small number of people who act in this manner. They are the same people who would ALWAYS find a reason to be racist & bigoted based on appearance.
They have no way of knowing where you have come from, you could be a banker living in London for years.
Don't let them win.
Enjoy the beauty of the countries you want to visit.
I hope you receive as warm a welcome in Europe as Europeans receive throughout Asia.
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mayankyadav
·I think you are un-necessarily worried as far as racism is concerned. One can get very easily get mugged or abused at in your your home country too. All the best for your trip.
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Riviera Paradise
·Not scaremongering here, but I think the way this virus is probably going to spread in the coming weeks, anyone discriminating against any race or country is going to look pretty idiotic. Caucasians, Asians...SARAS-Cov-2 could not care less what your race is.
There are probably countries that already have a slight "right-wing-foreigners-go-home" undercurrent which would not be ideal visiting right now. But to be honest, I would personally avoid international travel in the coming months in the northern hemisphere...you might suddenly find yourself in a quarantine zone and get stuck for a couple of weeks.
South America (no reported cases so far) and Oceania (seems to have thing under control) might be good alternatives if the OP still is planning to travel in May.
There are probably countries that already have a slight "right-wing-foreigners-go-home" undercurrent which would not be ideal visiting right now. But to be honest, I would personally avoid international travel in the coming months in the northern hemisphere...you might suddenly find yourself in a quarantine zone and get stuck for a couple of weeks.
South America (no reported cases so far) and Oceania (seems to have thing under control) might be good alternatives if the OP still is planning to travel in May.
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Jeeper
·Not scaremongering here, but I think the way this virus is probably going to spread in the coming weeks, anyone discriminating against any race or country is going to look pretty idiotic. Caucasians, Asians...SARAS-Cov-2 could not care less what your race is.
There are probably are countries that already have a slight "right-wing-foreigners-go-home" under current which would not be ideal visiting right now. But to be honest, I would personally avoid international travel in the coming months in the northern hemisphere...you might suddenly find yourself in a quarantine zone and get stuck for a couple of weeks.
South America (no reported cases so far) and Oceania (seems to have thing under control) might be good alternatives if the OP still is planning to travel in May.
So true, I live in England and the undercurrent of"go back where you came from" has been horrible for the last few years.
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Braindrain
·thanks Jim, hoping to get back our flights. Hotels is a loss. Wife doesn’t believe in paying $3 extra so I can have a chance to change her plans. Hoping to reschedule for next year stay, so I won’t be at total loss.
Lesson learned. Way, way back, I made a hotel res through Travelocity. Had to cancel and then realized they had this crazy policy of needing 30 days notice to cancel. Realized what a stupid interface that was.
Since then, I've always booked direct with the hotel and 100% cancelable. I've had to cancel again for various reasons and the few extra $ has been well worth it.
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Rochete
·Six dead already in Italy.
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FBPB
·To Europeans, all Asians look alike and they can't discern which nationality one comes from, nor do they care
Care to back that up with facts? Or was that a general stereotype for all Europeans?
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