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help me identify this watch with broad arrow hands

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Thanks again guys.
I appreciate all responses .one thing I wanna add is that my watchmaker has been in the business a very long time and is well respected in the city and was adamant that this is all factory original as he has seen everything.he actually got frustrated with me when I kept saying that I can't find another one like it.
 
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Thanks again guys.
I appreciate all responses .one thing I wanna add is that my watchmaker has been in the business a very long time and is well respected in the city and was adamant that this is all factory original as he has seen everything.he actually got frustrated with me when I kept saying that I can't find another one like it.

I'm not sure how exactly he can state with authority that the watch is, "All factory original"? Was he there when this watch came off the production line and has he owned it since? There has been an intervening 65 years when all sorts of things could have happened.
 
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I'm not sure how exactly he can state with authority that the watch is, "All factory original"? Was he there when this watch came off the production line and has he owned it since? There has been an intervening 65 years when all sorts of things could have happened.

I'm just passing along the opinion (not a fact you're right) of watchmaker that has been in business since 1976.
For what it's worth its from the same owner as this jumbo 2622-1 so he definitely had a penchant for rarity.
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I'm not sure how exactly he can state with authority that the watch is, "All factory original"? Was he there when this watch came off the production line and has he owned it since? There has been an intervening 65 years when all sorts of things could have happened.

I agree. Maybe he was suggesting that he thought the parts were original and authentic Omega parts. Obviously he can't know if they were originally installed in the same watch.
 
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Here’s one - this isn’t the only one I’ve seen, though. Will keep digging.

https://www.thevintageur.com/product/omega-seamaster-ck2846-broad-arrow/
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So the other one I’ve seen used to be in the below thread. However, the OP removed the photos of his watch from the thread as he “didn’t need to be told if it was original or not”. However, I did see the photos before he took them down and it wasn’t the same as the Vintageur one pictured. I don’t have any screenshots, however.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/seamaster-board-arrow-501.106688
 
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You might be right.... To me that dial does not look like a flat soft iron dial. It seems curved at the outer edge. If these are Lume wells, then maybe lightly pressed into the curved dial ? Tell the Watchmaker to have a closer look at that dial: curved metal or thicker soft iron. I vote for the first option so far.

I just called him and he said it's coated brass dial.
 
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I just called him and he said it's coated brass dial.

As expected. No Antimagnetic properties. Just a design on a normal thin brass dial.
 
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I'm just passing along the opinion (not a fact you're right) of watchmaker that has been in business since 1976.
For what it's worth its from the same owner as this jumbo 2622-1 so he definitely had a penchant for rarity.
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A 2622 is neither particularly rare nor a jumbo type watch. Loads of 36mm Omegas with the same movement aren't either. I am sure that your watchmaker is both experienced and competent, but one thing is to know which parts came from Omega originally and another is knowing if the parts were originally fitted together. If the movement and dial were lifted from another watch and put into a different case, he has no way of knowing, short of access to old brochures or similar.
 
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A 2622 is neither particularly rare nor a jumbo type watch. Loads of 36mm Omegas with the same movement aren't either. I am sure that your watchmaker is both experienced and competent, but one thing is to know which parts came from Omega originally and another is knowing if the parts were originally fitted together. If the movement and dial were lifted from another watch and put into a different case, he has no way of knowing, short of access to old brochures or similar.

Sure ,but following that same line of logic you also have no way of knowing since you weren't there no?
Not trying to ruffle feathers just trying to get to the bottom of this.
 
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Sure ,but following that same line of logic you also have no way of knowing since you weren't there no?
Not trying to ruffle feathers just trying to get to the bottom of this.

You are certainly right and I have always to expect the unexpected in this hobby, so there is certainly room for this to be a correct model 😀
It could be a special order - who knows? That said, I would be very surprised if this was the case due to the hands/case colour.

Generally, a watch maker has a very specialised skill set that sets him very much apart from all but very few collectors. Experienced collectors on the other hand has very specialised knowledge that sets him apart from all but very few watchmakers. One of my previous watchmakers used to sell Certinas in the early seventies and twenty years or so onwards and while he could work on them blindfolded, his knowledge of what was period correct and so on was very limited despite him thinking otherwise.

This is not intended as a slight against watchmakers or some way of claiming superiority, I am just stating that knowing what makes a watch tick is not the same as knowing what make it correct.
 
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You are certainly right and I have always to expect the unexpected in this hobby, so there is certainly room for this to be a correct model 😀
It could be a special order - who knows? That said, I would be very surprised if this was the case due to the hands/case colour.

Generally, a watch maker has a very specialised skill set that sets him very much apart from all but very few collectors. Experienced collectors on the other hand has very specialised knowledge that sets him apart from all but very few watchmakers. One of my previous watchmakers used to sell Certinas in the early seventies and twenty years or so onwards and while he could work on them blindfolded, his knowledge of what was period correct and so on was very limited despite him thinking otherwise.

This is not intended as a slight against watchmakers or some way of claiming superiority, I am just stating that knowing what makes a watch tick is not the same as knowing what make it correct.

Thanks for keeping an open mind,I appreciate that.
It's what I'm trying to do ,no disrespect indended in any way.
So the common consensus is these are correct hands and original dial just "maybe in a incorrect case ....so far yes ?
 
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First time reading through the entire thread, quite interesting. I'm going to guess case replacement with the caseback retained with the "new" case.
 
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Nobody seem to notice, but dial was notched at 9:00 Anybody ever see an OEM dial with a notched edge?

Repainted dials are notched. I don't think it's genuine and I did the same thing for a test when I had a number of OEM gold broad hands just to see what it would look like

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Nobody seem to notice, but dial was notched at 9:00 Anybody ever see an OEM dial with a notched edge?

Yes. I know it’s very popular to believe this is a definitive sign of a redial, but I don’t believe it is.
 
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Anybody ever see an OEM dial with a notched edge?

I have seen plenty of them on various chronometre models when I researched for my book - but - they were notched at 12:00 not at 9:00
 
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This is a great thread and thought it should be resurrected because the first watch (2846) that was discussed reappeared this week on IG. It was posted by Omega_enthusiast who represented it as an all original rare model. When I posted my opinion (similar to what others bring up in this thread) that the watch looks like a marriage I was personally attacked by the Omega_enthusiast. When both Bill Sohne and myself suggested he post the watch on OF for discussion we got blocked. Hopefully this thread is found when the future buyer of this watch does their "due diligence" on the watch.
 
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