Help me decide what Speedmaster (DSOM) to purchase

thatonewatchdude

Get the GSOM and buy the Ti speedy bracelet.

Kobiturbo

Its for Omega to make a ceramic bracelet,they can do it

MPWATCH

I've seen the Pitch Black in person several times, and can say it's probably my fav out of this line up. I'd throw it on a black strap and just start dressing as a ninja.

Riviera Paradise

If you buy retail DSOM's lose their market value anyway by around 35%-40%, from what I have seen of US pricing in the grey or pre-owned market. I don't think they would lose much more than that even with a new METAS/Master Chronometer certification. I certainly would never buy an Omega watch at the retail price point, with the exception of certain truly Limited Editions, and expect them to retain any significant residual value after purchase.

I do think it is quite likely (without any strong evidence to back this up) that many of the 9300 Speedies will receive METAS/Master Chronometer certification next year. Basel 2017 (final week of March 2017) is the event where Omega (and many other watch companies) announce new releases, but based on historical performance, they will only turn up for sale in OBs and ADs by Q3-Q4 2017. So I suppose you need to ask the question: can your itch to pull the trigger on a DSOM wait until Oct-Nov 2017?

jcmartinez98

I upgraded to the deployant strap and buckle, so I have the other strap with ceramic tang and buckle

PM me if interested

M midimanwatch

Hi, I am new to watches and this would be my first purchase.

I've got a few newbie questions.

I know what you mean about holding on for something, but what difference would the Master Chronometer badge make? I see that most of the new Omega watches are coming out with them.

I can get the Pitch Black at about 20% off retail value. Is that a good starting point? Or do you think that they could drop further?

Do these watches hold their value over time? Because it's a lot of money to pay for something.

Thanks

Riviera Paradise

In practical terms the Master Chronometer (METAS certified) would mean that the watch has anti-magnetic resistance. In terms of accuracy although Omega's marketing will state that the tolerance of calibre performance has improved to 0/+5, most buyers with the current iteration (pre Master Chronometer) have already registered very good accuracy, so I don't expect any significant gains there. With the Master Chronometer you can see the individual test results of your watch online with the METAS certification. Omega have stated that they intend for all their new calibre (8500, 9300 derived) watches to be METAS certified in the future.

The 20% discount for an AD (Authorized Dealer) purchase would be very good, online I have seen cheaper around 35%-40%, but then again I am not a good reference for this because I have always bought Omega watches from my local boutique (I live in Rio/Brazil where we don't have trusted online/grey market resellers). Personally I would only purchase a watch with a valid Omega warranty card.

From what I have seen of the second hand market, only a few specific Omega Speedmaster limited editions seem to have held their value over time. If you purchase your Pitch Black at 35% discount, you will probably not lose too much when you flip/sell the watch in the future. One advantage of the ceramic watches is that the case does not scratch with daily normal wear, so if you manage to avoid any severe accidents with the watch it should look pretty much brand new in a couple of years time.

Omega make great watches, but I would never buy a new Omega watch as an investment (the vintage market is a different animal). Buy a mechanical watch because you have fallen in love with it.

TheKomoman

This is excellent advice all around!!!

For me gray market is a risk/reward analysis and the higher up the food chain you go the more risk you're taking. When I dipped my toes into this stuff I started with a gray market TAG and while not an insignificant amount it was still 1/4 of what I spent on my used GSotM. For the Grey Side I bought used from an AD. That netted me a genuine watch, most of the original warranty and a price I could live with. I could have saved a bit more buying gray market but the risk/reward equation didn't balance for me on that one.

As far as waiting goes.. well there's always a "next thing" and I look at it as waiting to buy the next phone or tablet or laptop. If you get yourself into the cycle of waiting for that next thing you can end up never buying and enjoying the thing you looked at in the first place! Also these new watches are definitely not to be looked at as investments. Think of them more like high end cars with slightly less painful depreciation curves.

Stop over-thinking it, find one you like and buy it!

RegF

Get the one you like.

I looked at all three again recently and personally like the original

And just forget about value holding for ANY watch.

The crystal ball required to predict which particular model will go up in value in the future is permantly broken.

The best quote I've ever heard about watch investing was to make a small fortune buying watches, you have to start out with a large fortune

With the current Luxury Goods market in free-fall and lay-off in Switzerland, the grey- market, who are sourcing un-sold stock from dealers who can't move it - are having a field day. The RRP's keep going up at Boutiques and the discounts keep getting bigger as a result.

The grey market is not dodgy . It is now well-established

If nothing else, you can use it to force a bigger discount from a dealer if you are worried about price.

If you constantly wait for the new-imprived model, then you will wait a long, long time. Particularly on a staple model like the Speedie, there's likely to be a never-ending stream of ever newer, even more improved models.

And you must realise, that none of them are as accurate as a 410 quartz - but that's isn't what we are buying them for.

Buy the one that you lave - the one that makes you smile when you try it on and stop obsessing on the price, re-sale value or minutia of individual specs.

Enjoy the watch you choose, whatever that choice maybe, in that trio, there's non bad ones.

TheKomoman

This is excellent advice all around!!!

For me gray market is a risk/reward analysis and the higher up the food chain you go the more risk you're taking. When I dipped my toes into this stuff I started with a gray market TAG and while not an insignificant amount it was still 1/4 of what I spent on my used GSotM. For the Grey Side I bought used from an AD. That netted me a genuine watch, most of the original warranty and a price I could live with. I could have saved a bit more buying gray market but the risk/reward equation didn't balance for me on that one.

As far as waiting goes.. well there's always a "next thing" and I look at it as waiting to buy the next phone or tablet or laptop. If you get yourself into the cycle of waiting for that next thing you can end up never buying and enjoying the thing you looked at in the first place! Also these new watches are definitely not to be looked at as investments. Think of them more like high end cars with slightly less painful depreciation curves.

Stop over-thinking it, find one you like and buy it!

M midimanwatch

Can you upgrade? I would like the Nato deployment strap on whatever I decide to go for.

I would have to change it if I went for the Pitch Black.

M midimanwatch

Do these watches hold their value over time? Because it's a lot of money to pay for something.

Thanks

Taddyangle

No, these ones won't. You can pick up a used G or DSOTM for $6750 if you are patient and look hard, or relatively easy with little work at $7500. This is a substantial reduction from MSRP. But also pretty typical.

It's very rare for a modern Omega Speedmasters to sell on used market above MSRP. I can only think of a few modern Speedmasters that are worth more than MSRP.

Mouse_at_Large

DSOM Black Hole limited edition with the delete lume option. Personally, I'm not sure if the twisted lugs are entirely consistent with the overall design philosophy, but I suppose that's up to individual purchasers. Put it on the black PVD bracelet and you are good to go 👍

Post is useless without pictures 😉

U ulackfocus

Dude.

Duuuuuuuuuude.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, wears an expensive watch to actually tell the time. It's man jewelry with cool gears & stuff inside.