Help identifying my Constellation please

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Hello all.
A few words of introduction: I’m in the UK and have a small collection of Swiss watches (three to be precise – that’s all you need to know as I probably shouldn’t use the ‘B’ word round here eh?), so I’m new to Omega.

I’m looking for help and advice in identifying my Constellation - well, I say ‘my’ Constellation, it was my father’s but my son seems to have hijacked it whilst my back was turned!.

I’ve browsed many pages, particularly on this great forum, and my best guess is a 1964 Omega Constellation Pie Pan 36mm (am I close?).
But I’ve never found an exact duplicate – it’s the combination of the steel body and rose gold hands and fixtures which baffles me. Is this particularly unusual, were these watches offered with a choice of configurations?

I apologise for the poor quality of the pics (he’s 200 miles away and was on the move when I asked for images) and I realise I could get the numbers from inside the case but I’d rather ask the experts first.

My intention is to get the watch serviced and thoroughly cleaned etc, and get an ‘authentic/appropriate’ strap fitted to return the watch to its full glory so any advice would be most welcome.
My son wears the watch regularly and appreciates it and its legacy so I know it is in safe hands.
Thanks in advance.
 
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It's a configuration they definitely offered. I am inclined to say all original. But still get a better photo of the dial.

It's likely 34-35mm. A nice strap will work wonders. Something brown will accentuate the rose gold. Nice looking watch.

Welcome! What is the B word?!? Haha
 
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168.010 round case model? I believe that was available in a stainless steel case with rose gold hands and straight lugs, but I'll wait for the experts to opine.
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Seems nice to me 😀 should be as mentioned above 168.010 and the variation seems legit as well as mentioned above. Should hold a cal 564 quick set movement 😀.

Dial, well from the pic quiet impossible to say but printing seems correct but if it is original or reprinted i cannot tell.

Nice watch anyway, enjoy!
 
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Thanks guys.
Some better photos - which show that the glass needs polishing/replacing (indeed, there are a lot of scratches throughout) 🤦
Any thoughts / advice would be most welcome.
Would also like to know a year and model if that can be surmised - although once I track down a specialist to refurb it I guess that will become apparent.
 
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Great dial as well i can say. Fully original according to me and nice two-tone domed dial, however a no-pie pan dial even the two-tone can give the impression if my eye tells me correctly. 😀
 
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It’s the original plexi (you can see the Omega logo in the middle, right above the hands in the center), and I can’t see any cracks. If the plexi is indeed not cracked, a watchmaker will likely be able to polish it. It’ll look like new or close to it and it won’t be expensive.

All the information regarding model and year are on the movement / the inside of the caseback.

Definitely a beautiful watch!
 
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Very nice Connie.
I’m going to say, based on the dial style and case back shape, that the reference is a 168.004 rather than its later cousin the 168.010
Likely to contain a Cal561 movt (but less commonly Possibly a 564.)
(Try winding the hands through midnight to change the date then back through 9 and back again through 12 - if the date changes it’s a 561. )
Lovely case and nice dial.
Difficult to say if it is a faux pie pan (painted to look faceted ) or a genuine two-tone pie-pan.
The crown has been replaced, as it should be the hidden type, but that’s no big deal.
Likely later in the date range rather than earlier ( mid 60s) as the observatory on the back has brickwork.
Hope that helps.
 
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Very nice Connie.
I’m going to say, based on the dial style and case back shape, that the reference is a 168.004 rather than its later cousin the 168.010
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Very nice Connie.
I’m going to say, based on the dial style and case back shape, that the reference is a 168.004 rather than its later cousin the 168.010
Likely to contain a Cal561 movt (but less commonly Possibly a 564.)
(Try winding the hands through midnight to change the date then back through 9 and back again through 12 - if the date changes it’s a 561. )
Lovely case and nice dial.
Difficult to say if it is a faux pie pan (painted to look faceted ) or a genuine two-tone pie-pan.
The crown has been replaced, as it should be the hidden type, but that’s no big deal.
Likely later in the date range rather than earlier ( mid 60s) as the observatory on the back has brickwork.
Hope that helps.
agreed 😁
 
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Another way to differentiate between the 168.004 and the 168.010 would be the lug to lug width. If I remember correctly, the width on the 004 is 18mm and Omega bumped it up to 19mm on the 010.
 
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Gotta say guys, really appreciate your comments and help - I was going to say it's more than I expected but in truth it's exactly what I expected after browsing around the forums for the first time yesterday!
If it's not an inappropriate subject, what would you expect I would have to pay for a cosmetic overhaul on my watch at a reputable expert?
And what would you suggest for a strap - it was suggested that brown would set off the rose gold nicely (which I can certainly see) but I have vague memories of it having a black 'alligator' style strap (mind you, that was when I was in single figures!)
 
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If it's not an inappropriate subject, what would you expect I would have to pay for a cosmetic overhaul on my watch at a reputable expert?
And what would you suggest for a strap - it was suggested that brown would set off the rose gold nicely (which I can certainly see) but I have vague memories of it having a black 'alligator' style strap (mind you, that was when I was in single figures!)

I think the first thing to say is that you really don’t want a cosmetic overhaul.
Yes, polish the crystal but no polishing of the case or cleaning of the dial.
A standard service should cost in the region of £200 plus parts if required.
There are a couple of member UK watchmakers that are regularly recommended - Christian or Mitka ( @Mitka) at Watchguy and Chris (@ChrisN )

A brown or black strap would work well with the watch but keep it simple and non-padded.
Plain leather or a lizard effect looks good. (and as @gbesq says, check the lug width before buying a new strap)