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Hello, everyone! This is a follow-up to my previous thread asking for watchmaker suggestions.

For when I contact watchmakers, it seems that it will be helpful if I can identify the reference numbers. Can you help me with these three watches? Thanks very much!

Here are the pics again:
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Dan S
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The reference numbers are inside the caseback and the movement calibers will be on the movements. If you can’t open them, then just let the watchmaker do it.
 
Bruce235
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That waffle dial is a redial.
Not sure about the pie pan, markers look off. Photo is blurry.
The black one may be ok. Looks bigger too, so a jumbo?
 
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The reference numbers are inside the caseback and the movement calibers will be on the movements. If you can’t open them, then just let the watchmaker do it.
Hi Dan S--Thanks again for your help here, too. I don't feel comfortable opening the watches myself, so will follow your advice and let the watchmaker do it!
~Chris
 
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That waffle dial is a redial.
Not sure about the pie pan, markers look off. Photo is blurry.
The black one may be ok. Looks bigger too, so a jumbo?
Thanks, Bruce 235--Yes, the gold-capped waffle dial is a redial: I learned this in a prior thread here on OFs. It's too bad, but I still like the watch, and am interested in being able to wear it.

I don't know much about the pie-pan's history--only that it belonged to my father-in-law: I doubt that it ever went in for a service: are you saying it looks like it has been redialed in some way?

Glad the black one looks ok: some people here on OF have wondered if it, too, was redialed. I think it looks bigger only because of my poor camera skills: all three are the same size.
 
SOG53
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Just send them the photos they will be able to tell you if they can work on the watch
 
cnjackson
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Just send them the photos they will be able to tell you if they can work on the watch
Thanks, SOG53!
 
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cnjackson cnjackson
Thanks, Bruce 235--Yes, the gold-capped waffle dial is a redial: I learned this in a prior thread here on OFs. It's too bad, but I still like the watch, and am interested in being able to wear it.

I don't know much about the pie-pan's history--only that it belonged to my father-in-law: I doubt that it ever went in for a service: are you saying it looks like it has been redialed in some way?

Glad the black one looks ok: some people here on OF have wondered if it, too, was redialed. I think it looks bigger only because of my poor camera skills: all three are the same size.
The photo makes it hard to say. I think the minute markers are inconsistent, but may be bad crystal and dial damage. The words officially certified did not appear on some references at times, so not definitive.
 
cnjackson
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The photo makes it hard to say. I think the minute markers are inconsistent, but may be bad crystal and dial damage. The words officially certified did not appear on some references at times, so not definitive.
Oh--that's interesting. I'll pull the watch out and look more closely at it tomorrow. The crystal is definitely damaged and the dial seems stained or marred: I'll double-check the markers.

Thanks for drawing my attention to these things.
~Chris
 
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The black one may be ok. Looks bigger too, so a jumbo?
Out of curiosity, what do you mean with jumbo? Do you know any arrowhead jumbo model?
 
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Shabbaz Shabbaz
Out of curiosity, what do you mean with jumbo? Do you know any arrowhead jumbo model?

I don't think there's an official definition as such (happy to be corrected) but jumbo generally refers to any watch that's bigger than the usual size made for that model. Most vintage dress watches are 34mm and under. 36mm or above is usually considered a jumbo version.

I believe it was first used for the AP Royal Oak at 39mm? But am by no means an expert so happy to be corrected.
 
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I don't think there's an official definition as such (happy to be corrected) but jumbo generally refers to any watch that's bigger than the usual size made for that model. Most vintage dress watches are 34mm and under. 36mm or above is usually considered a jumbo version.

I believe it was first used for the AP Royal Oak at 39mm? But am by no means an expert so happy to be corrected.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/sho...1-14777-14778-14395-and-14396-allowed.109416/
 
Shabbaz
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Normally in connieland we use the word jumbo for the models above.
 
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Shabbaz Shabbaz
Normally in connieland we use the word jumbo for the models above.

Unless you’re a dealer trying to make a hidden crown Connie sound more exciting.....😉

( they’re only about 0.5mm bigger than their ‘standard’ brethren)
 
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Unless you’re a dealer trying to make a hidden crown Connie sound more exciting.....😉
Haha. Exactly!!
 
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36mm or above is usually considered a jumbo version

This claim largely developed to make watches being sold more attractive. I, and more than a few other collectors, would point out that 36mm is not so uncommon in the vintage watch world, and that 37mm or larger would more reasonably be considered "Jumbo".
 
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Out of curiosity, what do you mean with jumbo? Do you know any arrowhead jumbo model?
No I don't, it looked bigger than the others
 
Shabbaz
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No I don't, it looked bigger than the others
Well. If you ever find a black 37mm arrowhead connie please let me know! Then we found the ultimate and most desirable (unicorn) connie!
 
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Unless you’re a dealer trying to make a hidden crown Connie sound more exciting.....😉

( they’re only about 0.5mm bigger than their ‘standard’ brethren)



Yep, jumbo all the way, then☕::rimshot::
 
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