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janice&fred
·Can you imagine trying to find one to fit that?
no I can't.
Help ID Coworker's Watch
no I can't.
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ilayd
·Seemingly bold, dark print with alignment issues bringing about redial questions would be critical on some pieces but would it make a difference to your friend about his Father's?
I doubt it would make a difference. I suspect he'll be holding on to it as he's done thus far.
May I ask why you feel the caseback hes been replaced?
I only assumed that because I've not seen an Omega with that case back before. But after looking at some Jonell cases per X350's comment, I do believe it can be one of those and therefore not a replacement.
Your friend has a beauty that will need to be opened up and serviced anyway, please let us know what you find.
I dont think the watch is going to be serviced anytime soon. It's been serviced 5 years ago (no pictures taken at that time), but the watch is also stored for safekeeping and not worn. If he decides to start wearing it, I'm sure he would service it at that point. Perhaps we can find a local watchmaker or an Omega AD who would be willing to open the case back to take some photos.
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UncleBuck
·I doubt it would make a difference. I suspect he'll be holding on to it as he's done thus far.
I dont think the watch is going to be serviced anytime soon. It's been serviced 5 years ago (no pictures taken at that time), but the watch is also stored for safekeeping and not worn. If he decides to start wearing it, I'm sure he would service it at that point. Perhaps we can find a local watchmaker or an Omega AD who would be willing to open the case back to take some photos.
All quite understandable and I agree.
I would pass on X350 XJR's info and our admiration.
Thanks for the very interesting piece!
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ilayd
·I got some more pictures of the watch dial. These are a bit better than before, but still difficult to take good ones with a cell phone. I also tried to take the full dial ones as straight as possible (using some of the line marks on the phone screen). Hopefully this is more helpful. @X350 XJR and @JimInOz what do you guys think?
Full dial
Omega Logo Closeup
Minute markers close up
Seconds + close up (plus a bit of the SWISS)
Thanks guys
Full dial
Omega Logo Closeup
Minute markers close up
Seconds + close up (plus a bit of the SWISS)
Thanks guys
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoI think the dial is original and in keeping with a US market watch from the period.
These watches were designed for/by Norman Morris, the US distributor for Omega, specifically for the US market with cases and dials produced by their contractors in the US with no corresponding Swiss equivalents.
These watches were designed for/by Norman Morris, the US distributor for Omega, specifically for the US market with cases and dials produced by their contractors in the US with no corresponding Swiss equivalents.
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ilayd
·I think the dial is original and in keeping with a US market watch from the period.
These watches were designed for/by Norman Morris, the US distributor for Omega, specifically for the US market with cases and dials produced by their contractors in the US with no corresponding Swiss equivalents.
Thank you for the additional information, are watches that were designed for/by Norman Morris still cased by Jonell?
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ilayd
·Yes, Norman Morris used a number of case suppliers, Jonell, Wadsworth and Queens among them.
Great info. So what I've learned thus far is that its most likely a Jonell cased Omega that was made for/by Norman Morris for the US market. The watch is likely to be mid 1950's and probably (but not certainly) housing a Cal 410 movement.
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoI no longer have this one so I can't supply any closeups of the dial.
Note that dials were also made by different makers and in many different styles even for the same reference.
Note that dials were also made by different makers and in many different styles even for the same reference.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaBased on the new pics I vote for original.
It's much easier to distinguish the correctly centred SWISS and the sharply defined minute marks, although some are still peeping out from under the hour markers (although the marks could just be gunk/corrosion).
The Omega looks to be more centred and is probably a quirk of US produced dials, and when I check the vertical line through the pivots to 12 and 6 (just a sheet of paper on the screen) it's much closer to a nice straight line.
It's much easier to distinguish the correctly centred SWISS and the sharply defined minute marks, although some are still peeping out from under the hour markers (although the marks could just be gunk/corrosion).
The Omega looks to be more centred and is probably a quirk of US produced dials, and when I check the vertical line through the pivots to 12 and 6 (just a sheet of paper on the screen) it's much closer to a nice straight line.
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ilayd
·Based on the new pics I vote for original.
It's much easier to distinguish the correctly centred SWISS and the sharply defined minute marks, although some are still peeping out from under the hour markers (although the marks could just be gunk/corrosion).
The Omega looks to be more centred and is probably a quirk of US produced dials, and when I check the vertical line through the pivots to 12 and 6 (just a sheet of paper on the screen) it's much closer to a nice straight line.
In person, the stuff peaking from under the markers does look like gunk of some kind. Or possibly even slight discoloration/maybe minor chipping of the dial. When looking at it in person it doesn’t look like paint under the markers.
