Have you see this dial variation? Crosshair C-case

kaplan · May 19, 2021

Stumbled onto this thread while looking at a similar eBay watch https://www.ebay.com/itm/393330357641

Some 168.017's have tiny SWISS MADE's, while, most of them like this watch, has regular sized SWISS MADE's

The MOY's vary too, I'd bet this watch is genuine, but I wouldn't bet on OP's, but I'd marked genuine for it too

Sadly this eBay watch is kinda freaky other than the dial, the crown is funky, the case has a weird polish etc.

Opinions?

nkhandekar · May 19, 2021

It is a lot of work to just add cross hairs...you have to remove a lot of hardware from the front, apply the lines and then re-install everything you took off....and in so doing you risk damaging/delaminating the dial varnish. I imagine its too much work to do unless the whole dial is being refinished. That being said, I think the lines are impressively fine...thickish cross hairs are often a give-away on a refinished dial. I think this is a tough call.

DanT · May 23, 2021

Never seen one with a crosshair before I would be wary. I believe the crown is also incorrect for that reference, as a side point to the dial question!

HadgeBadge · May 16, 2026

Old thread, but thought I'd add to it for further reference as this C-Case is currently up for auction with a crosshair dial:

Have to say the dial looks pretty good but it looks a bit off as well, maybe. Crosshair seems to line up pretty well but the font seems a little off. I feel like I have become quite good at spotting Constellation redials but I have to say I am really not sure about this one.

If it didn't have a crosshair dial I would have not looked further and would have thought the dial is fine. Pics below:

kaplan · May 18, 2026

This is a special dial type I collect, I have 5+ different examples of it, I call them "Tiny Swiss Made" - they defy pretty much every rule of Constellation dials, wouldn't blame anyone for calling them redials - only when you get them all together and make them validate each other, then it's believable they were a special dial kind

But - this one might actually be a redial of that misc dial

So even though initially I thought this dial was one of those, I think it's likely a redial instead, but didn't dive to deep into it

Here's a regular C-Case crosshair for ref

gege11br · May 18, 2026

IMO its a good quality redial

myouss · May 18, 2026

HadgeBadge
Old thread, but thought I'd add to it for further reference as this C-Case is currently up for auction with a crosshair dial:

Have to say the dial looks pretty good but it looks a bit off as well, maybe. Crosshair seems to line up pretty well but the font seems a little off. I feel like I have become quite good at spotting Constellation redials but I have to say I am really not sure about this one.

If it didn't have a crosshair dial I would have not looked further and would have thought the dial is fine. Pics below:

The star is misaligned, which tells me it was removed and replaced at some point.

I think what’s happening here is original dials with crosshairs applied later. The confusion is the presence of signs telling your brain it’s legitimate but knowledge that something isn’t ordinary.

myouss · May 18, 2026

kaplan
This is a special dial type I collect, I have 5+ different examples of it, I call them "Tiny Swiss Made" - they defy pretty much every rule of Constellation dials, wouldn't blame anyone for calling them redials - only when you get them all together and make them validate each other, then it's believable they were a special dial kind

But - this one might actually be a redial of that misc dial

So even though initially I thought this dial was one of those, I think it's likely a redial instead, but didn't dive to deep into it

Here's a regular C-Case crosshair for ref

I’ve seen these Tiny Swiss Made’s as you call them,
out in the wild, and I also came to the conclusion it’s a legitimate dial. Even the Constellation text seems like a different brush stroke was used, but the quality and consistency in them tells me it was probably a certain contractor rather than a modern redial.

kaplan · May 18, 2026

I agree with your assessment - thicker lacquer on these too, so they don't peel but they crack

The more I look at it, the more I think @HadgeBadge's watch could be original too - Omega changed at least 1 thing every time they produced a new set of C-Case dial - seems like a rule. But I think we'd need to find 4-5 similar examples from all over the world to confirm

Unrelated, can't believe I never noticed the 6'o clock indice being shorter than others as a design element 😁

HadgeBadge · May 19, 2026

I think with all of us watch obsessives is that our brains are so conditioned to pick out the tiniest inconsistencies so we immediately, unconsciously, notice anything amiss.

I have never seen a c-case with a crosshair so that gave me pause to look closer at this watch. If crosshairs are a known thing on c-cases then I think this watch dial is likely original.

@myouss as far as I know the misaligned star/redial issue has been debunked. I have seen many misaligned stars on various Constellation references with otherwise fine dials, and it has been discussed it is due to the contraction of the overlaying lacquer so one can't use that as a sole indicator of a redial.

HadgeBadge · May 19, 2026

Here's another one, so maybe it really was a thing.

The photographs aren't great but this one looks okay too.

Have you see this dial variation? Crosshair C-case

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