Hands-On With The White-Dial Omega Speedmaster “Daniel Craig”

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My local independant AD isnt taking deposits. Told me it could up to 6mo before they get one to put in the window. They apparently already had a single alocation and was sold to solid client. Planning a work trip through NYC, want to stop by an OB to check it out. No way I will pay over RRP for one of these. Happy to wait for my AD to get them.
 
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Could it be the same production as snoopy to keep the hype high? 🤮
 
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Ain't gonna happen.
Why is that? Anything is possible with Omega? Lol
 
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Why is that? Anything is possible with Omega? Lol
Because sapphire crystals give Omega an excuse to charge more. There have been very few Hesalite crystal models in the recent past and none at all in the past 3 years I can think of. They keep the std Moonwatch out of respect for history but would no doubt love to retire it and only sell the more expensive versions. I think it very doubtful there will ever be another Hesalite model. Note the 321 New Ed White, supposedly a faithful copy of a 60s watch has sapphire, I think that tells you all you need to know.
 
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Why is that? Anything is possible with Omega? Lol

Most people outside of this forum don't like the idea of a "plastic" crystal on a watch costing thousands of dollars. Omega's objective is to sell as many watches as they can, right?
 
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Most people outside of this forum don't like the idea of a "plastic" crystal on a watch costing thousands of dollars. Omega's objective is to sell as many watches as they can, right?
Exactly, the 'normal' buyer who isn't stuck into the whole space thing isn't interested in spending $7k for a watch with a plastic crystal and solid back. $8k for a sapphire crystal and clear back is an easier sell, they can be sold on the scratch resistant crystal and the opportunity to see what they are paying for by looking at the back side. Omega keeps the hesalite version around for the die hard nuts, the type that populates this joint.
 
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Omega keeps the hesalite version around for the die hard nuts, the type that populates this joint

He said, affectionately…
 
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He said, affectionately…
With only the deepest and most sincere affection. But even that won't produce a hesalite white dial.
 
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If a white dial with hesalite ever existed, I would want to see the white dial look exactly like the current black dial on the hesalite model (no applied indices, logo, etc). If they did that, the next step would be to upgrade the current black dial sapphire sandwich such that the dial would match the new white dial in all but color (applied indices, logo, and the lot).

You’d end up with two printed dials with hesalite in black/white and two premium dials with sapphire in black/white.
 
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Most people outside of this forum don't like the idea of a "plastic" crystal on a watch costing thousands of dollars. Omega's objective is to sell as many watches as they can, right?
I would agree if we were talking about a limited edition… but given they already have the production lines, I don’t see why Omega would not want to sell more watches by offering both options on a regular model… as you said most of normal people would pay the premium to have the sapphire, and then the aficionados would buy the hesalite versions… Quantity-wise they would sell more watches this way.

And even for « limited » editions like 321, am sure the model would have even more success if it was offered with hesalite. Just my opinion of course.
If they would get rid of the milky ring (as other brands seem to be able to) that would be another story of course…
 
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I would agree if we were talking about a limited edition… but given they already have the production lines, I don’t see why Omega would not want to sell more watches by offering both options on a regular model… as you said most of normal people would pay the premium to have the sapphire, and then the aficionados would buy the hesalite versions… Quantity-wise they would sell more watches this way.

And even for « limited » editions like 321, am sure the model would have even more success if it was offered with hesalite. Just my opinion of course.
If they would get rid of the milky ring (as other brands seem to be able to) that would be another story of course…

Not sure how much more success you can generate for the 321. They have no problem selling them. I waited 2 years for mine.
 
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I would agree if we were talking about a limited edition… but given they already have the production lines, I don’t see why Omega would not want to sell more watches by offering both options on a regular model… as you said most of normal people would pay the premium to have the sapphire, and then the aficionados would buy the hesalite versions… Quantity-wise they would sell more watches this way.

And even for « limited » editions like 321, am sure the model would have even more success if it was offered with hesalite. Just my opinion of course.
If they would get rid of the milky ring (as other brands seem to be able to) that would be another story of course…

I'm sure the diehards will just modify it. My FOIS was modified and now has hesalite crystal and a pre-moon caseback. Being I have a watch with those and not a sapphire sandwich, I'm glad this is a sapphire sandwich to have something different than my other Omegas. Still haven't heard from my OB since release even emailed the manager following up on our emails in December putting me down for one haha.
 
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I think some of us really like having the Omega logo on the Hesalite crystal.

 
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I think some of us really like having the Omega logo on the Hesalite crystal.

They can do that on sapphire too if they want to.
 
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They can do that on sapphire too if they want to.
Yep, the 321 Ed White sapphire crystal has the symbol embedded in the crystal via laser treatment.
 
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Yep, the 321 Ed White sapphire crystal has the symbol embedded in the crystal via laser treatment.

I would love a watch with the 3861 movement and case (lyre lugs, assimetrical) and the 321 dial/crystal, priced between 3861 and 321 and easily available. Would look like a weird Frankenstein but I'd love to have one.
 
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Because sapphire crystals give Omega an excuse to charge more. There have been very few Hesalite crystal models in the recent past and none at all in the past 3 years I can think of. They keep the std Moonwatch out of respect for history but would no doubt love to retire it and only sell the more expensive versions. I think it very doubtful there will ever be another Hesalite model. Note the 321 New Ed White, supposedly a faithful copy of a 60s watch has sapphire, I think that tells you all you need to know.

The Omega boutique manager said 9 out of 10 standard Speedmasters sold were sapphire. Basically no hesalite. I left the store thinking Omega will never release another hesalite watch.