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As you noticed the dial has had a failed cleaning attempt that has removed some printing. That coupled with the case which has been unsympathetically buffed makes this one a resounding, ``No``
 
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As you noticed the dial has had a failed cleaning attempt that has removed some printing. That coupled with the case which has been unsympathetically buffed makes this one a resounding, ``No``
Yea, that was probably an ok looking watch prior to someone's efforts to improve it
 
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For reference - fonts look correct
But have to agree - case heavily polished - should have nice edge around bezel and near square lugs
Shame - nice ' hidden crown' 18k Connie once upon a time
 
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Apparently - "the number 1 in the Omega logo stamped on Movement" means first quality.

That's a good one! 😜 Gotta remember that for future use.
 
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So the consensus is that it is probably real, just been comprehensively ruined.

Has anyone tried to unpolish a watch? 18K is quite soft, very fine abrasive paper / brass wool might take the shine off.
 
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So the consensus is that it is probably real, just been comprehensively ruined.

Has anyone tried to unpolish a watch? 18K is quite soft, very fine abrasive paper / brass wool might take the shine off.

hmmm -unpolishing a watch might be a bit tricky...😕
it's not that the watch is shiny -it's the fact that it is not all there anymore....😉

18k watches become frequently over-polished -because as you point out they are relatively soft metal

mine isn't solid -only gold cap -but if you look at the edges and lugs, the gold one would have looked something similar originally
hope that helps


 
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OPs watch👎 and buckle is a fake.
What the whole thing Hijak?
I could only blow the dial up so far on my phone but the script looked okay
- you live and learn .... thanks for pointing that out
 
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What the whole thing Hijak?
I could only blow the dial up so far on my phone but the script looked okay
- you live and learn .... thanks for pointing that out
No whole thing not fake...I was just giving watch a thumbs down and pointing out fake buckle.
 
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No whole thing not fake...I was just giving watch a thumbs down and pointing out fake buckle.
Oh good - I misread the emoticon punctuation -glad I'm not too much of a numpty! 😀
 
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it's not that the watch is shiny -it's the fact that it is not all there anymore....😉

I was thinking along the line of gently abrading the tops of the lugs. It would reduce the overall depth a tiny bit but restore an edge. Cheat in other words.

Anyway, here is another. Strange crown but better dial and an original signed crystal. Maybe? And it has the 1 over the calibre so must be first quality as well!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mens-omeg...50-solid-gold-pie-pan-dial-watch/221916333852

I am after an solid 18k pie pan - hence the interest.
 
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Apparently - "the number 1 in the Omega logo stamped on Movement" means first quality. Well I never!
That's a good one! 😜 Gotta remember that for future use.

Just out of curiosity what does the 1 in the logo signify.
 
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Just out of curiosity what does the 1 in the logo signify.
I was told it was the height of the hands above the dial. 1 signifies the size of the crystal required.
 
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Just out of curiosity what does the 1 in the logo signify.

The 1 inside the Omega on the movement means it has a modification - a 'fix' if you will
In the cal 564 it was an amendment to the quick set date mechanism as it had a weakness that Omega put right

I should add that all Omega movements are high quality -and the chronometer rated Constellation movements are exceptional quality
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I was thinking along the line of gently abrading the tops of the lugs. It would reduce the overall depth a tiny bit but restore an edge. Cheat in other words.

Anyway, here is another. Strange crown but better dial and an original signed crystal. Maybe? And it has the 1 over the calibre so must be first quality as well!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mens-omeg...50-solid-gold-pie-pan-dial-watch/221916333852

I am after an solid 18k pie pan - hence the interest.

I think we would all like an 18K Connie!
I'm on the hunt for one myself....

The market price at auction -for a decent one - runs at around 1500-2000 Euro
From a collector a bit more
from a retail shop -double

The one you posted appears to have a decent dial
you correctly identified that the crown is wrong -the 168.010 should be 'hidden'
case is polished but not as bad as the other one

there does appear to a problem with the movement though
there are multiple colours to the different parts -this could be just the photo -or it could be that a number of parts have been replaced (not a good sign)
However, if you look at the rotor you will see a 'rubbed line' on the high point
this is replicated as a circular line on the case back -the rotor shouldn't come into contact with the case back
-not sure how bad this is but it would need attention -which can add significantly to your service cost

FYI -Gold based Connies are a 'speciality' in themselves due to the fact that (because of import tax on gold -and possibly other precious metals) gold cases were produced in a number of the countries of sale rather than just Switzerland
Including: UK, US, South America, France
Movements and dials were shipped and installed in the locally produced cases -which varied in quality
Fastidious collectors want one that left the Omega works as a complete watch
-so you have to know what you are looking for -often identifying them by the hall marks inside the case back
 
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[QUOT E="Peemacgee, post: 345057, member: 12739"]
there does appear to a problem with the movement though
there are multiple colours to the different parts -this could be just the photo -or it could be that a number of parts have been replaced (not a good sign)
However, if you look at the rotor you will see a 'rubbed line' on the high point
this is replicated as a circular line on the case back -the rotor shouldn't come into contact with the case back
-not sure how bad this is but it would need attention -which can add significantly to your service cost

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Indeed it is a bit of a mess. Also, I do not know if it is deliberate, but the actual movement number is obscured / unreadable. A bitsa?

Even paying mega money is no guarantee.
http://www.sonningvintagewatches.co...ga-constellation-pie-pan-gents-vintage-watch/
£3700 and the pivot bridge (?) is unoriginal and without the constellation script!

I've decided that I shall ignore any watch described as "stunning" - every ******* time.
 
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I've decided that I shall ignore any watch described as "stunning" - every ******* time.
Me too. I think it's a word people use when trying to unload a dog. "Minty" is another red flag. What does it mean? Refreshing like peppermint?
 
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The 1 inside the Omega on the movement means it has a modification - a 'fix' if you will
In the cal 564 it was an amendment to the quick set date mechanism as it had a weakness that Omega put right

Can you please cite a source for this information?

Cheers, Al
 
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Can you please cite a source for this information?

Cheers, Al

Hi Al,

By all means

Desmond's blog:

"The quickset design is reasonably robust, but somewhat bothersome. Many believe that the date setting system in 1000 series Constellations that allows date selection by rotation of the crown is more durable and more efficient.
There can be wear problems associated with the calibre 564 quickset configuration, the breaking off of the spiral (see B overleaf) on the date corrector being the main problem in earlier 564s, however in later calibre 564s the part was redesigned to eliminate the spiral in favour of a more solid part. One is able to tell when modifications of this type occurred because of the figure 1 placed within the Omega symbol on the drive train bridge."


link if anyone needs it:

http://users.tpg.com.au/mondodec/movement3.pdf

now I admit that I was thinking of the 564 and this piece of information when I wrote my reply -and may have implied that all '1s' in the Omega symbol meant a modification to that movement -which, by logical transposition (in my mind anyway..) I thought it did mean -so if it is incorrect I will happily stand corrected

Philip