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Dash1
·Well done sir! I take my hat off to you. Great story and a great result.
Found - Donn Eisele’s Apollo 7 Speedmaster
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Dash1
·Well done @gdupree and your roll in the recovery of the watch. What a fantastic story and great ending to a 28+ year old mystery.
Not only the hands but looking at the picture you posted, and the one Robert shared, it appears that the Omega raised logo might be missing as well. It looks like the glue residue that holds the logo in place is still intact on the dial surface but the AML gone.
I guess now we will all look at the Peruvian Speedmasters a bit more closely.
I also think the hands might be original ones, just repainted white (and not very well.)
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davidswiss
·Well done to you and the people in Ecuador who, presumably, were happy to let it go home.
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gdupree
·Not so sure that the AML is missing, I think it's just not reflecting, I've taken photos similar to this. The AML isn't glued on but held in place by two pins, if the logo is missing from a dial you can see the two pin holes.
I also think the hands might be original ones, just repainted white (and not very well.)
Looking harder at them now, you could totally be right. The chrono seconds hand is the tear drop shape that would be correct to this era. MWO does state that "There are some spare parts to replace the hands of configuration C1. The differences from the original hands include luminova coating and a shorter point of the chronograph seconds hand." But now that I look at it, it does look like they could possibly have painted the entire hand, including the lume plots. A luminova replacement hand, if the servicer was knowledgable enough to source the correct replacement, would likely still have had a distinguishable different in color from the lume and hand.
If you look closely, it almost looks like you can see rough areas in the lume plots from deteriorated lume that may have been painted over. Very interesting observation, and intriguing consideration.
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TLIGuy
·Not so sure that the AML is missing
I didn't know pins held the AML in place on the dial. That's why I couched my comment with "might be missing" In both images something appears off to my eye. In the 1st photo shared by @gdupree it appears to me as if the dial may have faded over the years then later the AML was lost and appears darker where the logo was set unfaded. Is the 2nd collectSPACE image where the logo sits it appears odd as well. Like you said, it could be the lighting but judging by the state of the hands someone has tinkered around inside the watch so I guess we won't know its true condition until Dr. Lavassure gets her hands on it and documents it with new images at the NASM.
EDIT 11/20 - @Dash1 is correct. After looking at the NASM Speedmasters almost all of the AML appear in the same fashion. Funny what light can do to the appearance of the AML.
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Overgrower
·Your efforts and actions are much appreciated. Wonderful that such an important piece of history has been recovered for all to enjoy.
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perks713
·That's amazing! Well done! I hope you get a chance to see the watch in person, hell, the museum outta let you wear it for a few minutes 😉
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jaspert
·Great story and kudos to you for your part in its recovery.
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Looneytoons
·This story made national news today. The story was covered on CBS radio, KNX 1070 Los Angeles, but from a national feed.
Very well done sir!
Very well done sir!
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SpeedyPhill
·Details of the " lost or stolen " Flown Speedmaster chronographs aren't that private... but very well known!
Astronauts' flown Speedies missing: ( without their NASA serial )
James Lovell, Donn Eisele (recovered 2017), Edwin Aldrin (whereabouts!), Stuart Roosa and Joseph Kerwin
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Furthermore Gen Thomas Stafford's gold tribute #13 Speedmaster...
OmegaAddicts have their own list:
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Astronauts' flown Speedies missing: ( without their NASA serial )
James Lovell, Donn Eisele (recovered 2017), Edwin Aldrin (whereabouts!), Stuart Roosa and Joseph Kerwin
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Furthermore Gen Thomas Stafford's gold tribute #13 Speedmaster...
OmegaAddicts have their own list:
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mikesspeedy
·OHHH VERY, VERY, VERY EFFIN COOL. you will always be a part of the story of this watch. go get the other 5.
I assume when the collector who "acquires" the watch dies others do not necessarily understand its significance and it eventually resurfaces?
I assume when the collector who "acquires" the watch dies others do not necessarily understand its significance and it eventually resurfaces?
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Ninja2789
·this is so CRAZY!
This is also why I love this hobby. The dedication to history, story-telling, and the sheer serendipitous nature of it all. Thanks so much for contributing and for reclaiming part of the provenance of this great watch.
This is also why I love this hobby. The dedication to history, story-telling, and the sheer serendipitous nature of it all. Thanks so much for contributing and for reclaiming part of the provenance of this great watch.
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gdupree
·I assume when the collector who "acquires" the watch dies others do not necessarily understand its significance and it eventually resurfaces?
Again, entirely speculation/opinion on my part, but it's tough to fain ignorance on these things when even a quick google of the SEB number on the case back will quickly yield results on it's NASA part number. Even if it's not a conclusive identification, it's enough for an honest person to seek more information from a professional.
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imajedi
·Incredible story. You are part of speedmaster legend and lore forever forward. I'm speechless other than just to say thank you!!
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mikesspeedy
·That could be one way. It's all speculation, but you would have a tough time convincing me that any legitimate collector truly bought one of these watches without understanding it's significance, or at least having a decent enough idea of the watch's potential provenance to responsibly inform the authorities.
Again, entirely speculation/opinion on my part, but it's tough to fain ignorance on these things when even a quick google of the SEB number on the case back will quickly yield results on it's NASA part number. Even if it's not a conclusive identification, it's enough for an honest person to seek more information from a professional.
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wwhntr
·Yes good point of course. Would a DNA test on the bracelet throw up wearers information I would imagine that a watch bracelet would be a good place to find DNA, probably from more than one wearer.
I’ve nearly “thrown up” while removing previous owner(s) DNA from old bracelets🤮(Sorry, I should refrain from sending this thread down the toilet!)
Amazing involvement in assistance locating lost historical time/space history! Please keep thread going...would love updates on any future found flown watches!
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gdupree
·I’ve nearly “thrown up” while removing previous owner(s) DNA from old bracelets🤮
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kkt
·I would be surprised if Ecuador has a sizeable database of people's DNA dating back to when the watch vanished.
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Vitezi
·Nice writeup on the 'dink with credit to @gdupree :
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/found-apollo-7-omega-speedmaster-donn-eisele
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/found-apollo-7-omega-speedmaster-donn-eisele
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hotwheels
·Well done and very exciting, I'm not sure that many others would have followed the trail so doggedly and passed it off as a fake...
