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·Good afternoon all. My first purchase and post on the forums. I found this forum( past Friday) about a 6hrs after I purchased the watch.
I spent the next days binge reading all the info I could for the new Omega collector. The information is invaulable and very welcomed. I have a lot to learn.
The watch, based on the etchings and pictures, appears to be an early 1970's Seamaster Deville 14k gold filled watch.
So I have a very small vintage watch collection and always wanted a vintage Seamaster. I came across this on a search, and it was posted on a Rolex Forum. The Gentleman started one of the Rolex Forums, is the original member of the Timezone forums, an active member on a few others, and seems to be a collector and seller of vintage Rolex watches for over 30 years. I spoke to him about the watch; he sent additional pictures and info regarding the watch. I was a little leary of how well the dial looked; he stated it is not redialed and offered a 3-day money-back guarantee. He hit many key points I read on the website, so I felt better about the purchase.
So I received the watch yesterday, and quite frankly, I was blown away on how nice it looks. Yes, it's not new by any means, but at 5 inches or greater, it looks fairly new, and you have to really look for defects.
The crystal appears to be in great shape and has the original omega cast in at the center. Scratches, if any, can only be seen under magnification. There appears to be a spec of something(greenish in color, possible a loose piece of tritum) on the inside of the case about 8 o'clock(not on hr hand), which will need to be removed, so it doesn't fall onto the dial and stick there forever.
The dial appears to be better than many, but under magnification, you can see age/corrosion and a few"patina" spots. It also appears a small piece of tritium is partially missing from the 7hr and is lodged around the 3' o'clock position. (or its a patina spot) I don't see any dial painting marks on the seconds. All the hands seem to have some light corrosion, along with the hr markers under magnification. The lume on the hands and hr only appears to light up for a short time,,, which makes sends based on age and does not appear under magnification to be re-lumed or touched up.
As described by the seller and viewed by me, the case does not appear to be polished at all. There are many scratches, small dings, and light corrosion that can be seen up close(less than 2 inches) and under magnification. All sharp edges remain. It clearly has never been polished. ( at least by a machine or heavy hand). I have no pics of the movement or the inside of the case as of yet.
The interesting thing to me is the watch tells a story by the engravings on the rear of the case. The watch appears to be given to an employee with 25 years of service from Consolidated Freightways,, which is now defunct and one of the USA's USA's USA's larger truck shipping companies. The engravings of the name and years of service are raised engraving,, and the company logo is engraved below the surface,, almost like a CNC milling. Additionally,,,, based on the scratch patterns on the sides of the case,,,, I think the owner was a southpaw.
The watch's timing is spot on for 24 hrs, and if off it has to be seconds, the crown seems to spin freely with no bind for setting the time and date. The band is black, with no name.
Some questions:
Is removing the lens something I can do at home without damaging the case. My background is a civil engineer who can fix just about anything that breaks in the house and very good at troubl eshooting, but know enough when to yield. I want to remove that speck of dirt/mold on the inside of the case. I think I am going to find a good CW21 watchmaker.
If the speck near 3 o'clock is tritium and not dirt, I would assume not to try and reattach at 7. If not done exactly it would look like crap and be considered a re-dial?
I can't see any indications based on my minimal knowledge base that this is redial? The seller is also willing to take the watch back
Band, is it worth getting an omega buckle to accompany the band or new band I want to get for the watch?
Another thing I learned is its really not easy to take good photos, and many times the photos don't always indicate a good looking or bad looking watch at face value. I have some magnified pics that made the watch look like it was tumbled with sharp edged objects, where its really not the case.
Typically price range for this watch in condition? I really like the watch so this is not as important but I see prices from $500 to $2000 on avg,
Anyway thanks for any input, and look forward to learning more and making a good future purchase.
I spent the next days binge reading all the info I could for the new Omega collector. The information is invaulable and very welcomed. I have a lot to learn.
The watch, based on the etchings and pictures, appears to be an early 1970's Seamaster Deville 14k gold filled watch.
So I have a very small vintage watch collection and always wanted a vintage Seamaster. I came across this on a search, and it was posted on a Rolex Forum. The Gentleman started one of the Rolex Forums, is the original member of the Timezone forums, an active member on a few others, and seems to be a collector and seller of vintage Rolex watches for over 30 years. I spoke to him about the watch; he sent additional pictures and info regarding the watch. I was a little leary of how well the dial looked; he stated it is not redialed and offered a 3-day money-back guarantee. He hit many key points I read on the website, so I felt better about the purchase.
So I received the watch yesterday, and quite frankly, I was blown away on how nice it looks. Yes, it's not new by any means, but at 5 inches or greater, it looks fairly new, and you have to really look for defects.
The crystal appears to be in great shape and has the original omega cast in at the center. Scratches, if any, can only be seen under magnification. There appears to be a spec of something(greenish in color, possible a loose piece of tritum) on the inside of the case about 8 o'clock(not on hr hand), which will need to be removed, so it doesn't fall onto the dial and stick there forever.
The dial appears to be better than many, but under magnification, you can see age/corrosion and a few"patina" spots. It also appears a small piece of tritium is partially missing from the 7hr and is lodged around the 3' o'clock position. (or its a patina spot) I don't see any dial painting marks on the seconds. All the hands seem to have some light corrosion, along with the hr markers under magnification. The lume on the hands and hr only appears to light up for a short time,,, which makes sends based on age and does not appear under magnification to be re-lumed or touched up.
As described by the seller and viewed by me, the case does not appear to be polished at all. There are many scratches, small dings, and light corrosion that can be seen up close(less than 2 inches) and under magnification. All sharp edges remain. It clearly has never been polished. ( at least by a machine or heavy hand). I have no pics of the movement or the inside of the case as of yet.
The interesting thing to me is the watch tells a story by the engravings on the rear of the case. The watch appears to be given to an employee with 25 years of service from Consolidated Freightways,, which is now defunct and one of the USA's USA's USA's larger truck shipping companies. The engravings of the name and years of service are raised engraving,, and the company logo is engraved below the surface,, almost like a CNC milling. Additionally,,,, based on the scratch patterns on the sides of the case,,,, I think the owner was a southpaw.
The watch's timing is spot on for 24 hrs, and if off it has to be seconds, the crown seems to spin freely with no bind for setting the time and date. The band is black, with no name.
Some questions:
Is removing the lens something I can do at home without damaging the case. My background is a civil engineer who can fix just about anything that breaks in the house and very good at troubl eshooting, but know enough when to yield. I want to remove that speck of dirt/mold on the inside of the case. I think I am going to find a good CW21 watchmaker.
If the speck near 3 o'clock is tritium and not dirt, I would assume not to try and reattach at 7. If not done exactly it would look like crap and be considered a re-dial?
I can't see any indications based on my minimal knowledge base that this is redial? The seller is also willing to take the watch back
Band, is it worth getting an omega buckle to accompany the band or new band I want to get for the watch?
Another thing I learned is its really not easy to take good photos, and many times the photos don't always indicate a good looking or bad looking watch at face value. I have some magnified pics that made the watch look like it was tumbled with sharp edged objects, where its really not the case.
Typically price range for this watch in condition? I really like the watch so this is not as important but I see prices from $500 to $2000 on avg,
Anyway thanks for any input, and look forward to learning more and making a good future purchase.
