Finding the perfect Speedmaster (for me)

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What about the Date Co-Axial Chronometer?

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Ref. 311.30.44.50.01.001

I don't know the dimensions for straps etc but it's the closest design to the original moonwatch with a date I could think of.
 
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Never bothers me my speedmaster does not have a date. I just think what was the date yesterday and then its always the day after!
 
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So I have always wanted a Speedy, but have usually talked myself out of the purchase because I can't get over the fact that the "original" doesn't have a date. That being said, I love the design, and *almost* everything about it. Now before I get flamed by the "no date" camp for bringing it up, I am one of the few who find a date display on my watches quite useful. So, I am posing the question...does a Speedy exist that has:

1. A date display
2. Legibility of the traditional moon watch (i.e., white hands + black dial)
3. Sold on a metal bracelet
4. A more standard lug size than 21mm

I am thinking that the ref. 3576.50 ticks most of these boxes, but I thought I should ask a more knowledgeable group before going down this road. I basically want either an original moon watch with a date, or a 44mm cal. 9300 model that I wouldn't have to squeeze a 22mm strap into.

Doh. Borrowed image on the net.

 
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It's not true that the SPeedy Pro do
Wow, thanks for the quick response guys. I would love to see a "modern" (non-LE) interpretation of the grail. That would pretty much be a game-ender watch for me.

Do any of you 3576.50 owners find it difficult setting a hand wound watch if you leave it sitting in the box for a few days while you wear other pieces in your collection?


Not at all
 
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@stewphill you have three posts so we get it.

Heck, before I got here I had an INVICTA.

Trust me, the Speedmaster pro is the way to go.

And welcome to OF.


Not sure I understand the post count reference, but I am leaning towards the moon phase model, especially after realizing that the case is around the same height as the non-moon phase models. As for being a date window guy, sorry, I just find it extremely useful.
 
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What about the Date Co-Axial Chronometer?

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Ref. 311.30.44.50.01.001

I don't know the dimensions for straps etc but it's the closest design to the original moonwatch with a date I could think of.

That would be a top choice since the dial maintains the majority of the design elements of the original. Plus, huge props to Omega for making the date disk the same color as the dial. I think (after a little Google-fu) that reference has 21mm lugs.
 
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That would be a top choice since the dial maintains the majority of the design elements of the original. Plus, huge props to Omega for making the date disk the same color as the dial. I think (after a little Google-fu) that reference has 21mm lugs.
That's the 3313 movement right? Best feeling movement I own. It's a pleasure to wind and set it.
 
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The reduced version.
Thats the MK40 not the reduced, while both are smaller in diameter than the Pro, the reduced refers specifically to the piggyback movement powered non-date model with running seconds at 3, rather than 9.
 
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Thats the MK40 not the reduced, while both are smaller in diameter than the Pro, the reduced refers specifically to the piggyback movement powered non-date model with running seconds at 3, rather than 9.
Got it! Thanks!
 
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What about the Date Co-Axial Chronometer?

om411_im.jpg

Ref. 311.30.44.50.01.001

I don't know the dimensions for straps etc but it's the closest design to the original moonwatch with a date I could think of.
Only problem with that is the oversize 44mm case which makes the sub dials look cramped into the middle of the dial. The 3313 movement at 27mm actually fits a 34mm case so the sub dials look odd when a massive spacer is used. Here is a side pic of two 3313 Speedmasters, LHS 44mm as above and the RHS 42mm. By the way way, the 861 movement used in the Moonwatch is only 27mm dia also, the Moonwatch could have been 36mm or less!


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Only problem with that is the oversize 44mm case which makes the sub dials look cramped into the middle of the dial. The 3313 movement at 27mm actually fits a 34mm case so the sub dials look odd when a massive spacer is used. Here is a side pic of two 3313 Speedmasters, LHS 44mm as above and the RHS 42mm. By the way way, the 861 movement used in the Moonwatch is only 27mm dia also, the Moonwatch could have been 36mm or less!


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It's not a personal favorite of mine, but it fits the criteria of "looks as much like a Speedmaster Professional, but has a date" best out of all the options.

While the movements can certainly fit smaller cases, the main point of the Speedmaster was to increase legibility at high speeds, which is why they added the tachymetre bezel to the outside of the case, rather than on the dial - it adds quite a bit of diameter to the case.
 
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Is that difference verified though is is it just down to the many inaccuracies on the Omega website? Both of those are 7750 based with similar looking cases and I wouldn't be surprised if both turned out to actually be 39mm.
 
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Is that difference verified though is is it just down to the many inaccuracies on the Omega website? Both of those are 7750 based with similar looking cases and I wouldn't be surprised if both turned out to actually be 39mm.

Extranet says one is 39 mm with 18 mm lugs, and the other is 40 mm with 19 mm lugs...
 
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I can confirm the other date out at the same time with the 3304 movement also has 19mm lugs and a 40mm case. I always felt these are transition models not really dates not really racing with aspects of both. Also comes in all black.

 
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If legibility is important - are numbers on the dial face important for you?
 
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If legibility is important - are numbers on the dial face important for you?

If this is a serious inquiry, the answer is no. Legible in the same vein as the original is good. White hands on a black dial are hard to beat in terms of legibility. I have a Bremont ALT1-P that uses white hands on a dark dial and the legibility is second to none.
 
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Skip the date and just get a pro.
 
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Agreed - the Professional may not have what you want now (date), but you'll probably be enjoying it years from now no matter what you're into