Finally got my grail

johnireland

Time now to relax and enjoy it. If I wanted something perfect, I'd buy new...and still could end up less than 100% happy. With vintage watches, things break or wear out or just get tired looking, and someone over the years changes them. And then we come along and as the new owner, we make it whatever we want it to be. If I find someone's name engraved on the back of a case, it doesn't bother me at all...rather it reminds me that I am just another stopping off place in the watch's life.

Scarecrow Boat

I’m just going to leave this here… it’s a fake watch
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-submariner.111845/page-25#post-1936522

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Tekashi_145.022

As someone who doesn’t know much about redials, OP’s predicament has me curious: judging by the number of vintage watches with redials floating around on eBay, it seems like redials were a common (and even accepted?) practice in decades past, perhaps up until around the quartz movement became ubiquitous. Assuming this is the case, what was the consensus on redials up until the ~70s? I know these watches weren’t especially collectible back then, but was a redial considered a “fake”? Or was it almost a moot point, given how common they were?

Today, it would be pearl-clutching levels of shocking to see a modern Rolex, JLC, or OMEGA redialed; yet, this seemed to happen all the time 40+ years ago. I wonder if OP’s more relaxed perspective here was more common back in the time this watch was redialed…

Duracuir1

Well, Halloween is near.

Slevin kelevra

I dont really like to comment as it feels like im bashing the OP when Im not really. It is not my intention to attack anyone.

But, I see the OP posting his "fake" rolex all over this forum and people giving it a lot of "Likes" I cant help feel the reaction would be different were he to be proudly posting his "fake" Speedmaster etc

Im willing to bet there are absolutely zero authentic Rolex parts on any other watches the OP shows us. If the OP is not aware of this then its a real shame and I feel for the OP. Someone has pulled the wool over his eyes big time.

towboat

What I have learned from being on this as well as other forums is everybody appears to be experts on everything. Some members believe that they know more than ad's or former rolex technicians to which I say very doubtful. Opinions vary and mean very little to me.
Thanks for the comments

towboat

What I have learned from being on this as well as other forums is everybody appears to be experts on everything. Some members believe that they know more than ad's or former rolex technicians to which I say very doubtful. Opinions vary and mean very little to me.
Thanks for the comments

Scarecrow Boat

Do you know how they came to this conclusion IE what benchmarks they used and what their level of expertise is, in the vast minefield of vintage Rolex?

Comparing yours on the left against a genuine 6538

It is easy to see the lug thickness and shape/length/taper of yours is wrong, the crown looks nothing alike, and the bezel is reminiscent of those fake vintage SM300 kits where the bezel teeth are all wrong/too sharp/pronounced. Your movement may be genuine but no-one here has seen it, so beyond that, I agree with others above that your watch is fake. By all means, continue to be "still ok with me" with it; however, considering you purchased this watch under the sellers description of having "original service parts" (dial/hands & more) only to find out the dial & hands are fake, which other members had pointed out despite you not agreeing- I highly encourage you to investigate your piece further, ask for help, and be open to discussion with members that have years of hands on experience and knowledge in the world of vintage Rolex.