Fallen In Love Again......... (a Successful Story In Cleaning Dial)

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Cleaning dials is a hit and miss proposition. This is generally not a one size fits all proposition since what worked for one dial might be disastrous for another. I have jumped for joy with some results and felt like crying with others. In general I leave well enough alone and if the dial has a lot of age and patina, I generally just avoid it altogether.
 
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So the question is: what formulation of Windex did you use? Around here we can buy Ammonia free (for cleaning the picture frames with UV glass), the old plain blue "Windex", and now some kind of new Eco friendly formulation.

Ive had varying results dial cleaning with dilute oxalic acid and citric acid (lemon juice). Across the board it seems dial cleaning is best reserved for clean dials with discolored/flaking cellulose based laquer.

Did you respray the dial with a laquer or preservative to protect the paint layer?--Something I'be always thought should be done but that is complicated by dial markers, etc that would have to be masked or removed prior to spraying. I've got a hand pump olive oil sprayer that comes out in a vapor mist... Maybe I should experiment on the next re-dial candidates that I pick up.

It's basic old plain blue windex. We started with water only first, then gradually adding windex drop by drop until it is enough to clean the surface of dial. We did not try other solutions (lemon juice etc).

Hoi showed me that newer Deluxe dial does not have lacquer layer --- hence less shiny than before. He also showed his non lacquer dial (after windex cleaning) hold its cleanliness and shininess after 2 years without any sign of discoloration and corrosion. Personally I do not mind less shiny gold, what I concern is possible oxidation and corrosion.
Of course best treatment should be putting the lacquer again. Let us know your experiment result...be it success or less so...馃憤
 
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Cleaning dials is a hit and miss proposition. This is generally not a one size fits all proposition since what worked for one dial might be disastrous for another. I have jumped for joy with some results and felt like crying with others. In general I leave well enough alone and if the dial has a lot of age and patina, I generally just avoid it altogether.
Mike.....do you see pattern in what condition and what treatment that gave you succeed and which gave you failure? Do you have any pictures on them?
 
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Cleaning dials is a hit and miss proposition. This is generally not a one size fits all proposition since what worked for one dial might be disastrous for another. I have jumped for joy with some results and felt like crying with others. In general I leave well enough alone and if the dial has a lot of age and patina, I generally just avoid it altogether.

I agree completely. I have cleaned dials with major success, and others I simply won't touch. Dials are very different in how they are printed, so what works for one may not work for another. Risking your own dial is one thing, but risking a customers dial is something I usually won't do. If someone asks me to clean their dial, I usually try to talk them out of it, and if they insist, I make sure that they know it could make things much worse.

I would be very cautious reading this thread and thinking Windex is good for cleaning all dials - could lead to a lot of damage.

Cheers, Al
 
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Mike.....do you see pattern in what condition and what treatment that gave you succeed and which gave you failure? Do you have any pictures on them?

No I don't but I would say it was pretty gutsy and risky to do what you did with that dial and got away with it. I recommend highly not to make a habit of this!
 
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No I don't but I would say it was pretty gutsy and risky to do what you did with that dial and got away with it. I recommend highly not to make a habit of this!
Point well taken.......馃憤
 
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I agree completely. I have cleaned dials with major success, and others I simply won't touch. Dials are very different in how they are printed, so what works for one may not work for another. Risking your own dial is one thing, but risking a customers dial is something I usually won't do. If someone asks me to clean their dial, I usually try to talk them out of it, and if they insist, I make sure that they know it could make things much worse.

I would be very cautious reading this thread and thinking Windex is good for cleaning all dials - could lead to a lot of damage.

Cheers, Al
I agree with you Al. I did this after consulting with people who did their similar dial before. There is always risk involve in here.
 
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I agree with you Al. I did this after consulting with people who did their similar dial before. There is always risk involve in here.

Still very lucky - more risk than getting complications from brain or heart surgery I think. Even if it is the identical dial, you are talking about 60 years of dial age under varying conditions - temperature, humidity, cigarette smoke exposure, etc. etc. etc. so what worked for one dial may be disastrous for another. This is like landscape photography - same exact view from the same exact point - you can have a hundred people take a hundred photographs each and each picture will be unique - based on equipment, exposure, time of day, etc. - I think you get the point.
 
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I've got a simple rule and a simple question that sorts out this dilema for me every time: Am I refinishing this dial?

If the answer is yes (very, very rarely), then out come the "magic potions" for dial cleaning, followed by a few wasted hours with various experiments. Sometimes the result means no re-dial. More often, the dials go back in their tins and are shipped away.

If the answer is no, I give a surface clean under the loupe with a bit of clean rodico. If I'm feeling really bold, I may use a q-tip with some good old saliva to dab off the rough spots.

Now what I really need is a bit of termite spit for getting that old cellulose laquer off cleanly. Anyone have a termite problem and a blender?
 
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Wow that is impressive ... this actually jacks up the prices on eBay as we will have more gamblers coming in.
good work private that easily adds another 1k to your Connie 馃憤
 
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Wow that is impressive ... this actually jacks up the prices on eBay as we will have more gamblers coming in.
good work private that easily adds another 1k to your Connie 馃憤
Thanks. The 'fallen in love again' is really the immediate benefit. If there is increase in value, that's a bonus.
 
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Unlucky dial cleaning on a 2852
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