Fake Warning - Seamaster 300 With Coaxial 8400 Style Movement Cover

repoman · May 6, 2015

P PatrickJ
What is to stop someone copying a serial number from a real omega on a high end fake.

Nothing, that's why most people block off part of their serial number when posting images of their watches.

PatrickJ · May 6, 2015

Seriously, my next one will be brand new from Omega retail. Man on moon I thinkt not for a while yet. This has put me off buying used.

redpcar · May 6, 2015

Looking at one of the replica sites, their serial number is 88510199. Tried to copy/paste it with no luck.

redpcar · May 6, 2015

Ok. Took a pic of the screen with my cell. Here is a pic from an authorized replica site.....

redpcar · May 6, 2015

Nickel Plated Japanese Miyota 8205 Automatic Movement, 28800bph, 21J, Decorated Insignia Rotor, All Markings of Omega 8500 Calibre Present

dsio · May 6, 2015

redpcar
Nickel Plated Japanese Miyota 8205 Automatic Movement, 28800bph, 21J, Decorated Insignia Rotor, All Markings of Omega 8500 Calibre Present

I think they're being quite optimistic there

Taddyangle · May 6, 2015

It is still listed. Really surprised eBay has not yet removed it.

And for the member who told me to not hold my breath while waiting for a response. Yep, so far no response once I started asking for details.

cuts33 · May 6, 2015

Taddyangle
It is still listed. Really surprised eBay has not yet removed it.

And for the member who told me to not hold my breath while waiting for a response. Yep, so far no response once I started asking for details.

I asked the seller if it bothers him that he's stealing someone's money and selling them a cheap knock off.

I don't expect an answer either.

PatrickJ · May 7, 2015

Just buy new from AD or Omega retail. Stick to man on the moon or base seamaster with 2500 movement, your watches will hold theIr resale after a few years although not initally.

You can get AT or PO new GREAT watches but expect big depreciation hit. Unfortunately, Omega unlike Rolex and JLC change their models frequently, such a shame they do this with PO and AT. If they let models become iconic in their own right they would be a better sensible alternative to a submariner.

But it is all about the manufacturer not the consumer when they are after a quick buck. This is a shame Omega could be as good or even better than Rolex if they had the right long term approach.

Nobel Prize · May 7, 2015

P PatrickJ
Just buy new from AD or Omega retail. Stick to man on the moon or base seamaster with 2500 movement, your watches will hold theIr resale after a few years although not initally.

You can get AT or PO new GREAT watches but expect big depreciation hit. Unfortunately, Omega unlike Rolex and JLC change their models frequently, such a shame they do this with PO and AT. If they let models become iconic in their own right they would be a better sensible alternative to a submariner.

But it is all about the manufacturer not the consumer when they are after a quick buck. This is a shame Omega could be as good or even better than Rolex if they had the right long term approach.

So true. Specially with the seamaster lines, it's like they go crazy with productions. I guess it works for them as a strategy for new sales, after all they don't make money on resales. But it does lower a little their status against rolex and other mid to high level sport brands, while on quality alone they are right there. Sometimes above, sometimes bellow, always around the mark.

They did it well with the Speedmaster Pro where they stayed put with only small variations that make collectors more hungry ( minus, of course the UNLIMITED LIMITED EDITIIONS. Which to me are little masturbatory gimmicks.)

I also like the dress omegas a lot. The DeVille, constellations etc are beautiful watches.

Tiny Iota · May 7, 2015

There are a lot of seemingly rigid opinions on here; "stick to X" or "must have Y". I think you should just buy what you like. If you like what you buy and aren't looking at it like a dealer, thinking about resale value, then it's all pretty much moot as its value to you is much more than simply pounds and pence.

PatrickJ · May 7, 2015

Nobel Prize
So true. Specially with the seamaster lines, it's like they go crazy with productions. I guess it works for them as a strategy for new sales, after all they don't make money on resales. But it does lower a little their status against rolex and other mid to high level sport brands, while on quality alone they are right there. Sometimes above, sometimes bellow, always around the mark.

They did it well with the Speedmaster Pro where they stayed put with only small variations that make collectors more hungry ( minus, of course the UNLIMITED LIMITED EDITIIONS. Which to me are little masturbatory gimmicks.)

I also like the dress omegas a lot. The DeVille, constellations etc are beautiful watches.

The De Ville and Constellation had been icons back in the day. But what about the modern watches? The modern De Ville looks great, I really like the entry level stainless steel one with the 2500 in. I like dress watches more and at £2280 new it is a great buy. However, could never own one. They are none on ebay that tells me no one wants this watch and resale is non existent. The modern constalation in my opinion looks like a ladies watch, no love or thought into this modern version, it could not compare to the classic version. The resale is not necessarily only to do with money, it is the collective confidence and love people have in products that determines the value. The value of a product is what people are prepared to pay for it based on its quality, continuity and history.

PatrickJ · May 7, 2015

Tiny Iota
There are a lot of seemingly rigid opinions on here; "stick to X" or "must have Y". I think you should just buy what you like. If you like what you buy and aren't looking at it like a dealer, thinking about resale value, then it's all pretty much moot as its value to you is much more than simply pounds and pence.

People collectively as a group buy for reasons. The value of a watch as Tom Bolt said " is what people are prepared to pay for it" This is based on credibility that a model has, be it history, quality, limited production etc. Of course if you love something buy it, but love for something is based not only on emotion bufoundational principles also. This is my opinion you have yours, but resale is a good indication of how good something is or is not.

Stewart H · May 7, 2015

P PatrickJ
...resale is a good indication of how good something is or is not.

Surely it is an indication only of how sought after something is. I don't think anybody would disagree that the AMG versions of Mercedes cars are very good cars - hell I nearly bought a used SLS a couple of years ago - but they depreciate like almost nothing on four wheels and carry on depreciating when others have stopped.

It's like anything else, if you can't afford to run something (and that includes depreciation) then you can't actually afford to own it in the first place.

chickenman26 · May 7, 2015

Taddyangle
It is still listed. Really surprised eBay has not yet removed

Gone!

PatrickJ · May 7, 2015

Stewart H
Surely it is an indication only of how sought after something is. I don't think anybody would disagree that the AMG versions of Mercedes cars are very good cars - hell I nearly bought a used SLS a couple of years ago - but they depreciate like almost nothing on four wheels and carry on depreciating when others have stopped.

It's like anything else, if you can't afford to run something (and that includes depreciation) then you can't actually afford to own it in the first place.

LOL. Or instead of going for the cheap option you go and buy a Submariner or a very classic man on the moon cal 321. They hold their money and credibility, no one will forget those watches in years to come. History, longevity, desirability is what holds the brand together in the first place. The SLS is a bad example as Mercedes have their bread and butter models. Don't get me wrong the new Omega watches are great but Omega need to stop bringing out these new models every 5 mins and concentrate on building the credibility and longevity of the current range. Then an Aqua Terra and PO models will become more credible, desirable and sought after and hold its resale. Again value is not about the money but a reflection of credibility. We can look for solutions or go with the status quo and burry our head in the sand. I am not a rich man or a poor man. I have two vintage Omegas sure I can't afford a new speedmaster or used explorer one at the moment, but it won't be long before I can. I will vote with my wallet and give credibility to the watch I pick thus increasing its credibility and resale. I promise you this, it will be a watch with history and longevity behind it. Why do you think omega still use the moon watch as a major point for their advertising?? Historical credibility that is why. 😀😀😀😀

Archer · May 7, 2015

redpcar
Looking at one of the replica sites, their serial number is 88510199. Tried to copy/paste it with no luck.

"No results found" which is not a surprise.

Thanks for that.

Cheers, Al

xjeeunitx · May 7, 2015

There is no photoshop work on these pictures. This is a prime example of how much replica manufactures from China have stepped up their game. You can easily tell from the movement and quality control of the watch is not that great. But, from a far distance, you probably couldn't tell. That's why I am actually glad Omega has sapphire casebacks. You can easily tell. Other watches, you have to remove it to see the movement.

PatrickJ · May 7, 2015

xjeeunitx
There is no photoshop work on these pictures. This is a prime example of how much replica manufactures from China have stepped up their game. You can easily tell from the movement and quality control of the watch is not that great. But, from a far distance, you probably couldn't tell. That's why I am actually glad Omega has sapphire casebacks. You can easily tell. Other watches, you have to remove it to see the movement.

These fake people are destroying it for the rest of us.

dennisthemenace · May 7, 2015

P PatrickJ
These fake people are destroying it for the rest of us.

Destroying what exactly? I don't think any member here is going to unwittingly buy a fake watch, they know the difference between fake and real. If they are in doubt about the legitimacy of a watch they will ask questions and do some homework before parting with their cash.